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re: Bluff Called, President Trump Responds to Ridiculous DOJ & FBI Claims of Nuclear Documents
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:35 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:35 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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He needs to say it in a slightly more formal way than posting to Truth Social.
Pretty idiotic jibberish from Trump.
Just say:
These are the documents that were in my possession. Here is where they were all declassified.
Thank you, the end.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:35 pm to AggieHank86
You’re literally on here 24/7. What will you do if nothing comes of this?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:35 pm to AggieHank86
No. No it doesn’t. Trump said release them so release them. If you have nothing then just come out and admit it.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:36 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Therein lies the key.
These are the documents that were in my possession. Here is where they were all declassified.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:36 pm to Tmcgin
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He said it on The Truth it must be true …. Right ? Trump made doing this a felony then gets caught doing it …. Just more undisciplined Sloppiness My favorite is when he said he’d fight a $2 million fine for Trump charities His own lawyer negotiated Blow hard
Nice melt, pusscake.
The TDS patients are going to go clinically insane before too long.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:36 pm to Tmcgin
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My favorite is when he said he’d fight a $2 million fine for Trump charities
I absolutely LOVE when people bring this up. Please tell us how much you know about private foundations? Who funded Trump’s foundation? Why is that important? What was the alleged self-dealing? Why is that important? Did Trump have more or less money in his pockets even after the deductions and alleged self-dealing than had he never participated with the foundations? If not, how much less did he have?
You walking into this makes it so clear how you idiots will opine on any old topic the media tells you to. I guarantee the media doesn’t understand this stuff either, so it’s not just you.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:37 pm to RobertFootball
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No. No it doesn’t. Trump said release them so release them. If you have nothing then just come out and admit it.
Gamecock education on full display here.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:38 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The “planting information” part is interesting. Think we’ve seen this floated from two of his attorneys and now him. Hmmm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:38 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Release the documents today. Why wait?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:38 pm to AggieHank86
At least very partially.
Otherwise, these documents were all observed by the FBI in June, and they had access to them for 18 months. The FBI made no attempt to do anything during that time if they thought anything was actionable.
They waited until August, right in the middle of Midterm primary season, didn't ask for permission to enter, just got a warrant on a former President.
Its patently absurd and a highly politicized act that someone like Merrick Garland should have completely kept himself apart from, instead of personally directing.
Otherwise, these documents were all observed by the FBI in June, and they had access to them for 18 months. The FBI made no attempt to do anything during that time if they thought anything was actionable.
They waited until August, right in the middle of Midterm primary season, didn't ask for permission to enter, just got a warrant on a former President.
Its patently absurd and a highly politicized act that someone like Merrick Garland should have completely kept himself apart from, instead of personally directing.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:39 pm to RobertFootball
They released it. Fox just went over the warrant and inventory list. So now what? It showed us exactly what we thought. Nothing.
Now get on the DOJ and judges arse to release the affidavit.
Now get on the DOJ and judges arse to release the affidavit.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:40 pm to RobertFootball
quote:I am certain that this makes perfect sense to you as a layman. You obviously do not understand quite a large number of things related to the legal system.
Trump said release them so release them. If you have nothing then just come out and admit it.
Trump is only one of the persons who might theoretically challenge the “unsealing“ of the documents in question.
The court set a deadline for anyone to file such an objection. Until that deadline arrives, no one is going to release anything included under the seal.
Even after that deadline, the court has to decide whether it will sua sponte decide to leave some things sealed and what to unseal.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:40 pm to AggieHank86
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Therein lies the key.
I have no doubt he is in possession of classified materials. I also have no doubt he was fully cooperating and this entire raid over those documents was simply weaponizing the FBI (again) against him. I suspect your are pretty sure about that too.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:40 pm to RobertFootball
I think Trump should also file a lawsuit against the DOJ, Eric Holder, Obama et al...
For the unlawful formation of a spying apparatus tentacle formed from within our govt. & for the unlawful--U.S. intelligence community working with social media platforms.
They have NO OVERSIGHT & are essentially all political operatives that are operating as oppo research on their political opponents.
The DNC utilizing the beast FISA court and then an office of the FBI within a democrat law firm think-tank.
Isn't it uncanny how Eric Holder made the bold statement in public that Trump was going to prison?
For the unlawful formation of a spying apparatus tentacle formed from within our govt. & for the unlawful--U.S. intelligence community working with social media platforms.
They have NO OVERSIGHT & are essentially all political operatives that are operating as oppo research on their political opponents.
The DNC utilizing the beast FISA court and then an office of the FBI within a democrat law firm think-tank.
Isn't it uncanny how Eric Holder made the bold statement in public that Trump was going to prison?
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While Obama’s radical ‘transformation‘ was triggered across a broad range of government institutions, simultaneously spending on the U.S. military was cut, but spending on the intelligence apparatus expanded. We were all distracted by Obamacare, and the Republican Party wanted to keep us that way.
However, in the background there was a process of transformation taking place that included very specific action by Eric Holder and targeted effort toward the newest executive agency the ODNI.
The people behind Obama, those same people now behind Joe Biden, knew from years of strategic planning that ‘radical transformation’ would require control over specific elements inside the U.S. government.
Eric Holder played a key role in his position as U.S. Attorney General in the DOJ.
AG Holder recruited ideologically aligned political operatives who were aware of the larger institutional objectives. One of those objectives was weaponizing the DOJ-National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) a division inside the DOJ that had no inspector general oversight.
For most people the DOJ-NSD weaponization surfaced with a hindsight awakening of the DOJ-NSD targeting candidate Donald Trump many years later. However, by then the Holder crew had executed almost eight full years of background work.
The second larger Obama/Holder objective was control over the FBI. Why was that important? Because the FBI does the domestic investigative work on anyone who needs or holds a security clearance.
The removal of security clearances could be used as a filter to further build the internal ideological army they were assembling. Additionally, with new power in the ODNI created as a downstream consequence of the Patriot Act, new protocols for U.S. security clearances were easy to justify.
Carefully selecting fellow ideological travelers was facilitated by this filtration within the security clearance process. How does that issue later manifest? Just look around at how politicized every intelligence agency has become, specifically including the FBI.
At the exact same time this new background security clearance process was ongoing, again everyone distracted by the fight over Obamacare, inside the Department of State (Secretary Hillary Clinton) a political alignment making room for the next phase was being assembled.
Names like Samantha Power, Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton were familiar on television while Lisa Monaco worked as a legal liaison between the Obama White House and Clinton State Department.
Through the Dept of State (DoS) the intelligence apparatus began working on their first steps to align Big Tech with a larger domestic institutional objective. Those of you who remember the “Arab Spring”, some say “Islamist Spring”, will remember it was triggered by Barack Obama’s speech in Cairo – his first foreign trip.
The State Department worked with grassroots organizers (mostly Muslim Brotherhood) in Egypt, Syria, Bahrain, Qatar and Libya. Obama leaned heavily on the organizational network of Turkish President Recep Erdogan for contacts and support.
Why does this aspect matter to us? Well, you might remember how much effort the Obama administration put into recruiting Facebook and Twitter as resources for the various mideast rebellions the White House and DoS supported.
This was the point of modern merge between the U.S. intelligence community and Big Tech social media.
In many ways, the coordinated political outcomes in Libya and Egypt were the beta test for the coordinated domestic political outcomes we saw in the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
The U.S. intelligence community working with social media platforms and political operatives.
Overlaying all of that background activity was also a new alignment of the Obama-era intelligence apparatus with ideological federal “contractors“. Where does this contractor activity manifest? In the FISA Court opinion of Rosemary Collyer who cited the “interagency memorandum of understanding”, or MOU.
Hopefully, you can see a small part of how tentacled the system to organize/weaponize the intelligence apparatus was. None of this was accidental, all of this was by design, and the United States Senate was responsible for intentionally allowing most of this to take place.
The tools the government used to monitor threats were now being used to monitor every American. WE THE PEOPLE were now the threat the national security system was monitoring.
Continue Reading...
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:41 pm to RobertFootball
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They said they’d release the documents by 3:00 today.
No, the Court said the DOJ had until 3 pm to inform the Court whether Trump opposed the motion to unsealed.
The DOJ is not going to rely on Trump's social media post. They need Trump's attorneys to let them know, and then it will inform the Court. Could have already happened, but attorneys tend to wait until the deadline.
Even if Trump is unopposed to unsealing the warrant, it might not happen today. The Judge has to issue an order,, then any confidential information in the warrant has to be redacted. Could have to wait until Monday.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:41 pm to Tmcgin
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Trump made doing this a felony then gets caught doing it
I'll make you the same offer made to the other low-IQ leftist filth liars - name the felony and when it was committed - be specific. The crime, the jurisdiction, etc.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:42 pm to RobertFootball
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They sure are taking their sweet time releasing them. They have 39 mins left, what’s the hold up? You’d think they’d have released them first thing this morning to show us what they’ve got.
You realize that Trump and his team are on the clock, right? He has until 3:00 PM EST to STOP the release.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:42 pm to Decatur
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The “planting information” part is interesting. Think we’ve seen this floated from two of his attorneys and now him. Hmmm
I mean. Only if the fbi is consistent with past practices regarding trump.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:42 pm to PaperTiger
quote:None of that was ever sealed. You’re talking about completely different documents than the documents which are currently still under seal, consisting primarily of the probable cause affidavits filed in support of obtaining the warrant.
They released it. Fox just went over the warrant and inventory list.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:43 pm to AggieHank86
Oh no you don’t get to hide behind “the legal system” anymore. Your side completely has fricked the legal system. You raided a former president home over nothing. You got a bogus warrant signed by a partisan judge.
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