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re: LSU Baseball 2023 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread - Old Thread - Please unpin
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:38 pm to robg1124
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:38 pm to robg1124
Does anyone know if the Team USA season is over yet? I saw they lost to Japan the other night and wanted the action to pick up with Luke Holman.
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:41 pm to ProjectP2294
Do we know what Johnson number is thought to be? Did I see 1.25 million?
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:43 pm to LesnarF5
Holman carved Japan up today. I believe they play Japan another game or 2 before it's over.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:44 pm to Metaloctopus
There are maybe 1-2 posters here I’d allow to man-splain me regarding the draft and just reading what you are writing, it wouldn’t be you.
Certainly true.
But has zero context
How many teams are doing this from here on out? And how much are they doing it for? Have you cared to research this?
Again, this certainly happened.
Do you care for any context,?
He was one of 4 players in rounds 10-20 to get over $1.0 mil
And one of only 5 players to get a bonus over $400k in rounds 10-20.
I’m sure plenty of teams want him, he just hasn’t been a priority yet to any team due to his price.
When the dust settles and a team has some leftover money, it could happen. It’s fluid.
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Teams deploy the strategy over underslot deals early to go overslot later, all the time.
Certainly true.
But has zero context
How many teams are doing this from here on out? And how much are they doing it for? Have you cared to research this?
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We lost Carter Young last year near the end of the draft, because he got well over a million.
Again, this certainly happened.
Do you care for any context,?
He was one of 4 players in rounds 10-20 to get over $1.0 mil
And one of only 5 players to get a bonus over $400k in rounds 10-20.
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Just because a team didn't want to draft Johnson yet, doesn't mean they don't really want him.
I’m sure plenty of teams want him, he just hasn’t been a priority yet to any team due to his price.
When the dust settles and a team has some leftover money, it could happen. It’s fluid.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:44 pm to ProjectP2294
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After about halfway through the next round, it's more likely that he would need to be drafted in the 11-20 rounds to get his number.
Is this because teams get penalized if they can't sign a Rd 1-10 pick? So they are less willing to take a flyer on a guy that might ultimately turn down the signing bonus in those rounds?
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:47 pm to UpToPar
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Is this because teams get penalized if they can't sign a Rd 1-10 pick? So they are less willing to take a flyer on a guy that might ultimately turn down the signing bonus in those rounds?
In 11-20, they get a $125k head start on the bonus. They'll take senior signs for 5k a pop until then to bank pool money if they have to.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:47 pm to DRock88
Yea, I think I saw 10Ks. They play Tuesday and Wednesday for the last 2 games then it is over.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:48 pm to BayTiger13
Calvin Harris at 116 and Maui Ahuna at 117 just picked
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:50 pm to ProjectP2294
Gotcha. Do teams still get penalized if they can't sign a guy? I guess by penalized I mean they lose whatever that slot value is from the pool?
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:50 pm to DRock88
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Ahuna sucks
You're just saying that because he can't hit a fastball.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:50 pm to UpToPar
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Gotcha. Do teams still get penalized if they can't sign a guy? I guess by penalized I mean they lose whatever that slot value is from the pool?
yep
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:50 pm to ProjectP2294
I know. I bet he'll actually turn out pretty good.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:54 pm to DRock88
Aidan Smith Miss. State Commit to Seattle at 124
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:54 pm to DRock88
I think it’s far more likely that you just see Cam Johnson remove his name at some point rather than just continue to fall.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:54 pm to Lester Earl
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Certainly true.
But has zero context
How many teams are doing this from here on out? And how much are they doing it for? Have you cared to research this?
Have you cared to do so? I'm only telling you of what is possible, and it only takes one team.
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I’m sure plenty of teams want him, he just hasn’t been a priority yet to any team due to his price.
When the dust settles and a team has some leftover money, it could happen. It’s fluid.
And this was my entire point. So you told me I don't know what I'm talking about, and then made my point for me. You ALWAYS have leverage, because of the threat to go to school. And, again, it only takes one team.
Speaking of context, would you care to research why only a few players signed for over a million after round 10 last year? It's because players priced themselves out, not because they had no leverage. A player and his advisor both know that the can bring the price down, but if the priority to go to school is set high enough, they will force teams to meet their demands. And a team, if they want to pay that much, can certainly do it.
That was what I wanted to get across. I think he clearly would have been taken by now, if his price were lower. But since it isn't, we'll now be waiting to see what happens in the later rounds, when teams with extra money come looking for a high end prospect to spend on.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:56 pm to Metaloctopus
A&M is getting Gavin Grahovac to campus. He can rake.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:56 pm to Hester Carries
Do we believe Johnsons fall is the injury?
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:58 pm to beardkp
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Do we believe Johnsons fall is the injury?
No. Money
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:00 pm to Hester Carries
and the unwillingness to give that money is probably tied to the injury and not being able to see him as much due to it, is it not?
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