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What’s the issue with Taiwan?

Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:44 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15743 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:44 am
Why does China have such a big issue with Taiwan?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35523 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:46 am to
They view Taiwan as a breakaway province since the late 40’s, when the PRC won the Chinese Civil War on the mainland and the ROC government escaped with a couple million followers and soldiers to Taiwan.

Beijing feels very strongly to say the least that they are the government of all of China, and that Taiwan is a part of China.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1820 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:46 am to
Google is your friend.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
23830 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:46 am to
Remember when GB tried to make claim for America. Then the founding Patriots said “Make my day”.

Same thing
Posted by TigerTowner
Member since Oct 2012
165 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:47 am to
CCP want Taiwan. Taiwan no want CCP. They are both China
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30528 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:47 am to
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Google is your friend.


No it isn't...

Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22698 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:55 am to
Taiwan used to be part of China.

1920's - Chinese Civil War begins between the Kuomintang (Nationalists) and Communists. Kuomintang was led by a guy named Chiang Kai-shek. The Communists were led by Mao Zedong.

1930's - Japan invades China. The Kuomintang and Communists agree to stop fighting each other for awhile and team up against Japan.

1940's - Japan is defeated. The Kuomintang and Communists resume their civil war.

1947-48 - The Communists under Mao Zedong are victorious. The Kuomintang and Chiang Kai-shek have retreated to Taiwan. Mainland China becomes the People's Republic of China, and Taiwan becomes the Republic of China.

1950's-Present - The People's Republic of China view Taiwan as part of them, but as a province in rebellion. The government in Taiwan views themselves as sort of a "government-in-exile" for all of China.

The United States has a defense agreement with Taiwan.

This is why knowing history is important. It explains the who/what/when/where/why we are where we are today.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 7:58 am
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:01 am to
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Why does China have such a big issue with Taiwan?


Why does the US have such a big issue with Taiwan? It’s not like we have domestic issues we need to address.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:04 am to
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SlidellCajun
The continued existence of an ROC is a stick in their eye. It says that they did not notch a total win in the Revolution.

Remove all the frills, and it is really that simple.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30528 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:04 am to
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Why does the US have such a big issue with Taiwan?


Well, they do make a lot of computer chips and technology parts for the nice electronically controlled things we love so much...

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:05 am to
Google is not a friend
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170362 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:06 am to
Yeah...it's a search engine

Don't get too paranoid about it
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29101 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:07 am to
They make most of our computer chips.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20316 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:08 am to
This is the issue with a national divorce. It might work for a little while, but in 50-60-80 years, the stronger side will claim that the other side belongs to them.

China-Taiwan is literally a national divorce. They kept running until Mao didnt chase them anymore.

This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 8:10 am
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30528 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:09 am to
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the stronger side will claim that the other side belongs to them.


Nope, not here I can assure you...

The left would be begging to be let in, kind of a reverse of the China / Taiwan situation...
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:13 am to
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Remember when GB tried to make claim for America. Then the founding Patriots said “Make my day”. Same thing
Horrible analogy. Let’s look at it from a historical context more familiar to you.

Imagine that all the American Tories fled to Maine in the early 1780s, established a government under the Articles and claimed to still be the legitimate government of the entire United States, while the government in the remaining states moved forward with a new Constitution and continued to claim Maine as part of Massachusetts. Then imagine that for decades most of the world continued to recognize the Tories, and NOT to recognize Washington, etcetera. That was the status of affairs before we recognized Beijing (Peking at the time) in 1979.

Do you think that might annoy the folks governing the bulk of the country under our shiny new Constitution?

Now imagine the world SLOWLY coming to recognize Washington as the government of the United States, while a handful of holdouts continue to recognize the Tories in Maine as governing the entire continent. That is the status of China/Taiwan today.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:13 am to
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Google is not a friend


Seriously, saying google should be banned. That has to be the best marketing of all time. Anytime someone talks about doing searches, they say Google it. It’s the worst search engine out there, especially for people who talk here
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11824 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:18 am to
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Why does the US have such a big issue with Taiwan? It’s not like we have domestic issues we need to address.





You're entire existence depends on TSM chips. No chips? No food, energy, clean water, transportation etc...
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170362 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:23 am to
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It’s the worst search engine out there, especially for people who talk here


What makes it uniquely bad for the people here?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92008 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:27 am to
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wutangfinancial


Pretty sure he was being facetious brah
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