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Amazon has been giving cops Ring doorbell data without user consent

Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:55 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:55 am
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Amazon finally admits giving cops Ring doorbell data without user consent

Amazon Ring gave police data without user consent 11 times so far in 2022.

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More than 10 million people rely on Ring video doorbells to monitor what's happening directly outside the front doors of their homes. The popularity of the technology has raised a question that concerns privacy advocates: Should police have access to Ring video doorbell recordings without first gaining user consent?

Ring recently revealed how often the answer to that question has been yes. The Amazon company responded to an inquiry from US Senator Ed Markey (D-Mass.), confirming that there have been 11 cases in 2022 where Ring complied with police "emergency" requests. In each case, Ring handed over private recordings, including video and audio, without letting users know that police had access to—and potentially downloaded—their data. This raises many concerns about increased police reliance on private surveillance, a practice that has long gone unregulated.

Ring says it will only "respond immediately to urgent law enforcement requests for information in cases involving imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to any person." Its policy is to review any requests for assistance from police, then make "a good-faith determination whether the request meets the well-known standard, grounded in federal law, that there is imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to any person requiring disclosure of information without delay."
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:57 am to
Looks like 11 cases will be thrown out of court soon.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:57 am to
There is that good faith BS.

Why is that used so often to allow officers to become shitey people and frick people over?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:59 am to
ACAB
Posted by swolverine
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:01 am to
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This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Youngsville
Member since Oct 2007
2537 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:04 am to
Headline sounds pretty bad but it's 0.0000011% of their customer base so I don't know if it's worth a freak out or not
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30282 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:04 am to
Yep, just another reason to limit technology in our homes. Safety? Sure, but I don't trust the agencies that have access to the data. Excuse me, but I'll go without cameras and recording devices throughout my home

Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3992 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:06 am to
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Amazon has been giving cops Ring doorbell data without user consent




You mean the surveillance state has joined forces with the police state to infringe on your rights?


:shocked face:
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96360 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:28 am to
shite like this is why I don’t like “smart” devices for the house outside of entertainment.

Smart thermostat? Someone can remotely set your in house temperature for whatever reasons.

Smart locks? Someone can let themselves in if the system gets compromised.

Smart mics / cameras? Basically bugs left in plain sight.


I don’t want a lot of these simply because I don’t trust people nor do I trust software to stay uncompromised.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
45195 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:29 am to
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Ring handed over private recordings, including video and audio, without letting users know that police had access to—and potentially downloaded—their data.


That has to be illegal
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:35 am to
Person of Interest coming to life.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17148 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:36 am to
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Amazon has been giving cops Ring doorbell data without user consent



Ring has a "neighborhood" app where you can post videos for public consumption. I posted a video of a porch pirate stealing one of my packages.

EBRSO saw it, came to my house and requested I file a report because they were building a case against the guy.

Two days later the detectives called me saying they arrested the thief.

I was supremely impressed with EBRSO throughout the process and have no issues with EBRSO seeing that video.

What I would not want is EBRSO accessing my data that I do not post for public viewing.
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