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re: Foreign travel and local sentiment.

Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:14 pm to
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Ummm... Israel is in Asia.


Don’t want to be mean. But if you have ever been to the Med. like south of France down Italy wrap around Croatia Greece. Keep going east that’s Israel. Not quite Asia. Border of Middle East.

When I say Med I mean Mediterranean Sea. Very nice beaches and water all throughout!
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
7297 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:19 pm to
So that's a no you're not gonna tell us about the local sentiment in the countries you went to?
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3836 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:21 pm to
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So that's a no you're not gonna tell us about the local sentiment in the countries you went to?


Sure I will. I made a post asking others experiences, if any. You have one, please share.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19441 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:22 pm to
My brother sent me a photo from a gas station in France. People are angry there.

He was filling up, and someone had put it a sticker on the pump.

It had a picture of a very expensive bougie store in Paris. The store has been gutted by fire, arson.

Written across the picture was the line who sowes misery, reaps the consequences

Ordinary people are suffering, and they know Paris is responsible for their misery
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:48 pm
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3836 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:27 pm to
There are more referendums going on across where I traveled than is reported here at home. That’s just my experience.

And the War in a Ukraine. They were initially worried. But soon realized maybe there was a reason for it. Whatever that means.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:29 pm
Posted by heymama
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2022
276 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:30 pm to
Unfortunately, I haven’t been to Europe yet or traveled outside of the country in several years.
But I’m genuinely interested to hear more about what you learned.

So please tell us NOW, or this will start looking like a “subtle brag about your extensive travels” thread. lol
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3836 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:35 pm to
We are throwing weapons to prolong a war against a current country. Not all of it just half. So why are we making the rest( Germany) mainly oppose Russia. That’s what they said.

They don’t care. They want their electricity on, cars full. When it’s cold heat in their homes. They don’t care about Ukraine.

Not a political opinion. What I was told by numerous people over 9 days.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:36 pm
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2624 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:42 pm to
St Lucia

Getting into a van with another family (all wearing masks). Driver looks at them and says "take those damned things off. You look like fools."

I cuckled to myself and gave him a $100 tip for the ride and laugh.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3836 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:46 pm to
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Getting into a van with another family (all wearing masks). Driver looks at them and says "take those damned things off. You look like fools."


My man! I went to Manhattan for New Year’s Eve 6 months ago. 2022. Wore a mask for 4 days straight. Outside and all. Came home had Covid.

That mask really worked lol
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44041 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:48 pm to
I regularly travel back and forth from Texas to the UK.
My fam has dual passports.

Not unlike the US, attitudes in Britain are contextual, depending on with whom you’re talking.

I’ll say this: Many Brits are bitter about how their country has been overtaken by wokeism.

The entire country is in flux.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:51 pm
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3836 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:59 pm to
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I’ll say this: Many Brits are bitter about how their country has been overtaken by wokeism. The entire country is in flux.


Why the PM stepped down. The real “woke” are waking up. All over not just UK.

BB is gunna take back control of Israel next election. Y’all think that was a coincidence? He got robbed too.
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6161 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:17 am to
I was in the military in the 80s. Reagan was treated like a warmongering dunce by the media but there wasn't a place in Europe I visited where people, when discovering I was American, didn't talk about how much they liked Reagan.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3836 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:23 am to
Same with Trump. No matter where you go. And that’s a fact. And this isn’t political pandering on my part. It’s real and when you turn that 4 screen tv off. Travel to another country.

Blow your mind. They are tired of the fake woke. It’s time for the real Woke.

Abraham accords. Why is there no one talking about it?
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 12:27 am
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15881 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:20 am to
I'm sitting in the Frankfurt Airport right now waiting to board my flight back to the states. I was here visiting my wife's family for 10~ days in Heidelberg.

Politics only got brought up twice. My MILs boyfriend from rural Baden Württemberg brought it up while we had a BBQ one night (Would vote for Trump if he was a citizen) and my BILs girlfriend from Hannover but now living in Berlin (Votes Green Party which is hard, hard left) brought it up after a wedding and night out.

The conversation with the BILs girlfriend got a little heated after a long night of drinking but nothing too crazy. We ended it respectfully and woke up the next day and acted like it never happened. We were still friendly despite disagreeing on most topics.

The MILs boyfriend felt the same way that I did on most issues. It was refreshing.

The energy crisis as you mentioned is on the forefront of everyones mind. Almost above all else from what I gathered. We went out to dinner almost every night with different family and friends and it was constantly brought up. There was palpable anxiety over what's happening and what the plan is if Putin doesn't turn the pipeline back on after the "maintenance" is complete. Most that I spoke with don't believe this is a maintenance situation and that the pipeline won't be turned back on which is obviously a huge concern. A lot of discussions about fireplaces and wooden stoves if the gas gets cut off this winter as a worst case scenario.

The Dollar catching up to and then passing up the Euro while I was out here was another common topic. Most were very surprised as it's been 20 years since USD > Euro. They're closely following it and almost seemed to be shocked watching it play out.

Overall it seems like there's significant uncertainty around gas/energy, The EU economy/Inflation and the larger impact of the war on Ukraine and how it will change the European landscape both geopolitical and financially. Lots of fingers crossed and hoping for the best.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124273 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:36 am to
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They don’t care. They want their electricity on, cars full. When it’s cold heat in their homes. They don’t care about Ukraine.
Poor people. They just want to be able to laugh again ...

Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8544 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:40 am to
Live in Germany and their media is worse than ours when it comes to not even fake news ,but just outright lying. He thought that overturning of Roe vs Wade meant end of abortion all together. I told him no that is not the case and it would go back to individual states to determine the laws regarding abortion. He was mortified and did not believe me when I told him what partial birth abortions were and would be allowed in a state like California. Alot of the citizens here do not have a good understanding of our system and they way the media describes it here it mostly false.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 3:44 am
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
8017 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 4:26 am to
Chile was only concerned with COVID mobility passes. Nothing else mattered. Colombians talked mostly about “reunification” with Venezuela (hence the election of the Maduro clone) and Germans (at least in Munich and Friedrichshafen) were pretty concerned with the longer term ramifications of being so dependent on Russian energy. None of them have any time to anything going on in the US.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59160 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 4:47 am to
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several countries across Europe including Israel


Israel isn't in Europe.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5390 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:11 am to
I'm in Spain right now and they think Biden is a joke.

I was in Australia in November 2019 and they loved Trump.
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2143 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:54 am to
I went to Peru last fall. They just elected a socialist president. Multiple protests happening in every city I visited. Every guide and service worker I talked to said their election was stolen. Eerily similar to what people say here. Makes you wonder
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