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re: Teen killed on 4th of July boating accident on Blind River; driver booked, DWI
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:21 am to Breauxsif
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:21 am to Breauxsif
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standing past the guard rails on the front of the boat with another passenger when it hit the wake of another passing vessel. Both passengers fell out due to choppy waters, and Bradley was struck by the boat's motor. Her body was recovered later that day.
I'm tired of the responsible drunk driver automatically getting charged/blamed for dumb arse bad luck under the guise that had the driver NOT been drunk, they would have avoided killing the person who was actually responsible for the incident.
This just happened to a doctor in Baton Rouge. Minding his own business driving home drunk when an idiot crosses the center line and hits him.
Dr Not at fault for accident but still faces DWI and vehicular manslaughter.
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According to Louisiana State Police, 35-year-old Chenna Nalabolu is being charged—despite not being directly at fault for the deadly wreck—after a breathalyzer test determined his blood-alcohol level was .087 percent, just over the legal driving limit.
Police said the other driver, 22-year-old Summer McKinnon of Walker, was on Nicholson Drive around 3 a.m. when her vehicle crossed into oncoming traffic and hit Nalabolu's car.
McKinnon was reportedly not wearing a seatbelt and died at a hospital. Nalabolu was not hurt in the crash.
Downvote away but automatically blaming the barely drunk guy b/c he's driving is misguided and stupid.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:25 am to mikelbr
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Downvote away but always blaming the barely drunk guy is misguided and stupid.
Maybe, but also maybe a non drinking guy driving the boat doesn’t allow them to stand outside of the rails while the boat is in operation. Or maybe he is aware of the approaching wake and takes effective action about it.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:25 am to mikelbr
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I'm tired of the responsible drunk driver being blamed for dumb arse bad luck under the guise that had the driver NOT been drunk, they would have avoided killing the idiot who actually is responsible for the incident.
to be fair, the driver whether drinking or not drinking, is responsible for the behavior and safety of the passengers. He should have not allowed the passengers on the front of the bow past the safety rail.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:25 am to mikelbr
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standing past the guard rails on the front of the boat with another passenger when it hit the wake of another passing vessel. Both passengers fell out due to choppy waters, and Bradley was struck by the boat's motor. Her body was recovered later that day.
I'm tired of the responsible drunk driver being blamed for dumb arse bad luck under the guise that had the driver NOT been drunk, they would have avoided killing the idiot who actually is responsible for the incident.
This just happened to a doctor in Baton Rouge. Minding his own business driving home drunk when an idiot crosses the center line and hits him.
Dr Not at fault for accident but still faces DWI and vehicular manslaughter.
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According to Louisiana State Police, 35-year-old Chenna Nalabolu is being charged—despite not being directly at fault for the deadly wreck—after a breathalyzer test determined his blood-alcohol level was .087 percent, just over the legal driving limit.
Police said the other driver, 22-year-old Summer McKinnon of Walker, was on Nicholson Drive around 3 a.m. when her vehicle crossed into oncoming traffic and hit Nalabolu's car.
McKinnon was reportedly not wearing a seatbelt and died at a hospital. Nalabolu was not hurt in the crash.
Downvote away but always blaming the barely drunk guy is misguided and stupid.
These aren't the same. As the operator of the boat, you should not allow your passengers to access areas not intended to be in when the boat is underway. Maybe had he not been drinking, he would have had enough sense to not allow them to be there. If he wasn't drunk, he should have still been charged with careless operation and/or worse.
The other incident, I agree is bullshite.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 10:27 am
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:25 am to mikelbr
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I'm tired of the responsible drunk driver being blamed for dumb arse bad luck under the guise that had the driver NOT been drunk, they would have avoided killing the idiot who actually is responsible for the incident.
While your second example is valid, is the driver of the boat not a dumbass for letting minors stand where they shouldn't while in motion? He may have been a dumbass sober as well, but poor choices on his behalf.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:25 am to mikelbr
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Downvote away but automatically blaming the barely drunk guy b/c he's driving is misguided and stupid.
I'd have made them sit down before going any further. Perhaps his condition didn't make him as aware of the danger to his passengers.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:29 am to mikelbr
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Downvote away but automatically blaming the barely drunk guy b/c he's driving is misguided and stupid.
I understand your point, but the captain of the vessel (boat or airplane) is always responsible for the passengers. Even if he was stone sober, he shouldn’t have let them bow ride. It’s one of the
Most dangerous things you can do on a boat.
He may not have been drunk, but he’s still culpable for her stupidity.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:33 am to mikelbr
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Downvote away but automatically blaming the barely drunk guy b/c he's driving is misguided and stupid.
Sorry, bruh, this incident is 100% on the captain.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:44 am to mikelbr
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Downvote away but automatically blaming the barely drunk guy b/c he's driving is misguided and stupid.
This is not the point of blaming drunk drivers. Even if you drink and drive and objectively aren't at fault (someone else crashes into you, someone jumps in front of your car), the point is not that the alcohol didn't have anything to do with it. It's that the alcohol was in your system.
Statistically, more people with alcohol in their system operating vehicles, more people in automobile accidents, more death on the road. Most of the time that death could have been avoided had someone just not drank.
The barely drunk person who may very well be capable of driving gets lumped in with the drunk person because there is no objective way to measure the acceptable level of alcohol consumption per person because even with a baseline, metabolizing alcohol varies depending on a great many factors.
You may be a person who can drive with a beer in their system, but the truth is we have to have a way to keep people that aren't as responsible off the roadways. The benefit of creating some sort of intricate system based on each individualized person is convoluted and would have a benefit nowhere near what it would cost, both in terms of money and manpower. The result is a baseline that caters to the most conservative amount of alcohol. We can't do any better without wasting a ton of money just for the sake of allowing people to drive home from an even after drinking.
It's much better for society if you have the fear of the law in you and abstain completely.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:48 am to mikelbr
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responsible drunk driver
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:15 am to mikelbr
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I'm tired of the responsible drunk driver automatically getting charged/blamed for dumb arse bad luck under the guise that had the driver NOT been drunk, they would have avoided killing the person who was actually responsible for the incident.
This is the problem. Capt. of the boat is in charge of everyone's safety. That's the responsibility whether it be a flat boat or a yacht. Those guard rails are there for a reason.
FOR EVERYONE WHO MAY DRIVE A BOAT IN THE FUTURE. DO NOT LET PASSENGERS SIT OR STAND BY THE BOW.
If a person falls from the bow then this happens. He definitely shouldn't have been at the helm inebriated and also lacking any basic boater safety knowledge.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:31 am to mikelbr
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Downvote away but automatically blaming the barely drunk guy b/c he's driving is misguided and stupid.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:36 pm to mikelbr
In the case of the Dr I tend to agree, there’s an argument to be made.
In this situation the captain of the boat still shared responsibility for allowing the kids to do something that stupid, and his impairment probably contributed due to his reaction time being altered. I don’t have a problem with the charges in this case, the basic facts are a disaster waiting to happen.
In this situation the captain of the boat still shared responsibility for allowing the kids to do something that stupid, and his impairment probably contributed due to his reaction time being altered. I don’t have a problem with the charges in this case, the basic facts are a disaster waiting to happen.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:44 pm to mikelbr
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automatically blaming the barely drunk guy
We have this stupid tendency to widen the net instead of increasing the punishment, and it has resulted in some very low blood alcohol levels being considered over the limit. Instead, we should have kept the levels higher and radically increased the punishment. How about one year in jail for the first offense and five for the second? But only if they are actually intoxicated.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:55 pm to mikelbr
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Minding his own business driving home drunk
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:46 pm to mikelbr
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Downvote away but automatically blaming the barely drunk guy b/c he's driving is misguided and stupid.
The drunk guy driving the boat is like the pilot of an aircraft - he's in charge and is responsible for the safety and well-being of his passengers. He failed this girl and will be held accountable.
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responsible drunk driver
Is this a joke?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:47 pm to mikelbr
It is.
Two stupid people on front boat prob drunk too.
Didn’t have enough sense to hang on.
One paid price
Other got lucky
Lots blame to go around
Two stupid people on front boat prob drunk too.
Didn’t have enough sense to hang on.
One paid price
Other got lucky
Lots blame to go around
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