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re: My wife and I had an abortion. AMA

Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:46 pm to
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Those are decisions reserved for those going through the trials.




The baby is the one going through the trial and had no decision in the matter.


Just saying.

People steal because they cant afford things. That doesnt mean that stealing isnt a crime and that society cant make a judgement whether or not to allow it. There is a whole host of issues where the person may have a sad story to go along with their decision. That doesnt mean that the decision only affects them and is purely theirs to make.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 4:47 pm
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22170 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:51 pm to
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Caring for those that are the product of unwanted pregnancies after birth should be just as much "pro life" as discussions about abortion.


But they aren't cared for.
Never have been.
Never will be.
Not during pregnancy.
Not after birth.
These states do nothing to even prevent unwanted pregnancies. No sex ed in schools and abstinence only education leads to more pregnancies, not less.

These states that have banned abortion have inserted themselves into the process by saying states have a vested interest in a pregnancy being carried to viability then to birth. However, most will do nothing to help the mother of that unwanted pregnancy have a healthy gestation, nor will the state do much to make the newly born baby have a healthy life. Most these children in which the state now has a self appointed vested interest are now grist for the judicial/prison industrial complex.

Had the fetus in the OP been carried to term, it would have caused irreparable emotional and financial harm to the family (and financial burden to the state as well). Had the parent been a poor family or poor single mother, the catastrophic defect would likely have never been found, ensuing in a traumatic birth and millions of dollars in NICU care and beyond--all charged to the state.

(Unrelated to this thread, but related to the topic, I'm pretty sure that if abortion were only legal for minorities and non-white immigrants, the jagoffs behind the "pro-life" movement would have found something else to whinge about for the last 40 years)
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
37651 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:51 pm to
My wife's best friend had a similar situation as yours. They also terminated the pregnancy due to having a low survival rate.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
23007 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:53 pm to
Give life a chance because it is precious and a blessing.
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:57 pm to
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My wife's best friend had a similar situation as yours. They also terminated the pregnancy due to having a low survival rate.


Genuinely curious what everyone's survival threshold is to be willing to carry.

25%? 50%?

Every baby ever born will eventually die. Maybe based on that we should just stop giving birth altogether until births are 100% safe for the babies.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17431 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:03 pm to
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If you represent what being Christ like is like, I understand why so many are so sour in religion. Your Jesus sounds like a condescending dick




Explain
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
23007 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:18 pm to
The problem is we all have taken these percentages as absolute truth and ran with it and believe these doctors are never wrong. Well they are a lot because they aren't a God and they will not know what the future will hold.

Humans are resilient creatures and they have beaten the odds of life throughout human history.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22170 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:21 pm to
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If by chance the fetus makes it to term and is delivered, the baby can be made DNR and institute comfort measures.


Don't forget the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars in unnecessary medical bills.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22170 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:26 pm to
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just not abortion used as birth control.


Then why not expand access to actual birth control.

Broaden sex education in schools. Start early...elementarty school.

The "Jesus says don't have sex" school of birth control has not worked.

Nobody is FOR abortion. Everyone should be against unwanted pregnancies.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32079 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:27 pm to
Congrats on the murder. Do you ever sit up and night and wonder where your child could be today had you given them a chance?
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
50375 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:30 pm to
My wife told me we needed $800 to go get some test that determines if the fetus has Down Syndrome. I said "why do we need to know?" "Are we going to abort the baby if we find out it had a problem?" She said "no". So I said "then why do we need a test to find out?"

My point was, if it's God's will, then who am I to say I know better?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72102 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:32 pm to
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Everyone there was there terminating a wanted pregnancy.


bullshite. You don’t kill something you want.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
280978 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:34 pm to
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if it's God's will


Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:36 pm to
lol and the “nature taking its course” thing is hilarious. If we just let nature takes it’s course, 95 percent of people alive today would be dead, a simple bacterial infection or something similar would have us in the grave. Also, if we truly let nature take its course then we would have no birth control either.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
47830 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:38 pm to
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Then why not expand access to actual birth control.

What else do you want? Someone to come to your house everyday to make sure the pill is taken?

It’s never been so readily available like it is now.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
150710 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:51 pm to
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The problem is we all have taken these percentages as absolute truth and ran with it and believe these doctors are never wrong.
^^^This, from many things I have seen medically with adults and children is true.

So before I made any medical decision I would be sure in a way that is beyond any MRI/Image/CScan if possible. Beyond a second opinion even-if needed.

But these people in this thread acting like this couple in the OP had no consideration for the unborn baby are really judgmental. Not everyone can handle it. It was the OP's choice and NUNYA.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22170 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:51 pm to
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It’s never been so readily available like it is now.


Red states are actively working to reduce many forms of birth control while also reducing access.

Many lawsuits are in the courts that want to allow Bible thumping pharmacists to refuse filling BC prescriptions; many insurance companies do not want to cover it either.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
40329 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:55 pm to
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I definitely lean toward pro-life. But I do hope stories like yours don't get completely overlooked in the times to come.
well...I’m sure your sentiment is well received but abortion is no longer federally protected. Several states (including Louisiana) had “trigger laws” already in place that criminalize abortion even in the case of rape or incest.

so good luck to all I guess?
thoughts and prayers?

the baby just went out with the bath water, literally
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
47830 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:59 pm to
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Red states are actively working to reduce many forms of birth control while also reducing access.

As of now, most of these measures have been struck down. Most of it deals with government funded birth control anyway.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:00 pm to
It’s disingenuous as shite for conservatives to pretend they support this solely because of state’s rights issues. They know they are happy because it will allow them to completely ban abortion and even further extreme measures like retroactively charging people and charging people that have an abortion in another state.
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