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It's amazing how much Netflix' binge model now hurts its top shows like Stranger Things
Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:15 pm
Stranger Things came less than 3 weeks ago and now it's virtually gone from the entire mind of the viewing public and media.
Just look at this board. There are numerous discussions about a dogshit Star Wars show that the fans openly hate, yet it's week to week to week episodes keep the discussion going and the story fresh in people minds.
Meanwhile, Stranger Things, an immensely better product than anything Disney Star Wars has ever thought about producing, just released what may be its best season to date (S1 probably still better but whatever, you get the point), and nobody is saying hardly anything about it anymore and most people probably binged it over the Memorial Day weekend and haven't thought about it again since. It also got lost among the Top Gun/Obi Wan ferver during its release.
I know Netflix made their bones off the binge season drop model, but for their premier properties (which they don't have many anymore besides ST) they should really reconsider and at least drop down to 2 episodes per week or something. And I Never thought as a viewer I'd say that.
Just look at this board. There are numerous discussions about a dogshit Star Wars show that the fans openly hate, yet it's week to week to week episodes keep the discussion going and the story fresh in people minds.
Meanwhile, Stranger Things, an immensely better product than anything Disney Star Wars has ever thought about producing, just released what may be its best season to date (S1 probably still better but whatever, you get the point), and nobody is saying hardly anything about it anymore and most people probably binged it over the Memorial Day weekend and haven't thought about it again since. It also got lost among the Top Gun/Obi Wan ferver during its release.
I know Netflix made their bones off the binge season drop model, but for their premier properties (which they don't have many anymore besides ST) they should really reconsider and at least drop down to 2 episodes per week or something. And I Never thought as a viewer I'd say that.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 5:17 pm
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:27 pm to Jack Ruby
I could see Netflix changing their business model to have a weekly release of original programing. My question would be are people signing up to watch something like stranger things then canceling?
Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:28 pm to Jack Ruby
I never liked it, and have been wondering for a while now when streaming services would go back to a more periodic schedule. You're right. Shows are talked about longer and stick around social media longer when they come out weekly. And people who say they hate to wait...it's not that hard. And it makes the show more enjoyable when anticipation is involved.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:36 pm to Jack Ruby
I used to come on here and rant about how screwed up binging TV series seemed to me. Now I love finding an old show I missed and binging every season of it. I did that with The Wire, Hannibal, The Man in the High Castle, Counterpart, Homeland, Homecoming, Vice Principals, Boardwalk Empire, and more I know I'm forgetting. I didn't start watching The Expanse until Season 5, so I got to binge all of that and only wait on the last few seasons.
I don't think I've watched anything week to week since the third seasons of Fargo, and Snowfall (both 2019). The crazy part of it is I still have cable!
I usually wait for three or four episodes to come out now before I start a new season of a show. I miss out on the threads about episodes, but I don't feel like I'm really missing much.
I don't think I've watched anything week to week since the third seasons of Fargo, and Snowfall (both 2019). The crazy part of it is I still have cable!
I usually wait for three or four episodes to come out now before I start a new season of a show. I miss out on the threads about episodes, but I don't feel like I'm really missing much.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:51 pm to Jack Ruby
Netflix has created us as content locusts.
We consume it instantly then move on to the next thing to consume
It’s a very brief hit in the culture and then gets pushed back with everything else
We consume it instantly then move on to the next thing to consume
It’s a very brief hit in the culture and then gets pushed back with everything else
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:06 pm to Jack Ruby
This is why the wife and I won’t binge watch anything anymore. It ruins the experience IMHO.
Even shows with short episodes, like Love Death + Robots, we don’t binge.
Even shows with short episodes, like Love Death + Robots, we don’t binge.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:14 pm to Jack Ruby
The newest season of Stranger Things shits all over damn near all of the new Star Wars stuff on Disney+, that’s probably why we have to wait to July 1st to finish Stranger Things on Netflix. Netflix is slowly going to the same model as other platforms.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:31 pm to Jack Ruby
Agreed
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:34 pm to Jack Ruby
It kills discussion because the superfans will binge the whole season as soon as it drops, and the threads will be up to 40 pages before a normal person has seen the 3rd episode.
I'm encouraged that some people think it's the best season; the first couple episodes looked like a boring rehash with some awful teenage drama piled on.
I'm encouraged that some people think it's the best season; the first couple episodes looked like a boring rehash with some awful teenage drama piled on.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:43 pm to Jack Ruby
Stranger Things 4 has been great so far, but I think they could’ve broken it up a little better. Instead of 7 episodes coming in at nearly feature film length each, break it up into, say, 10 slightly shorter episodes.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:50 pm to Jack Ruby
To add another possibly unpopular opinion - I hate that “seasons” are now only 6-8 episodes long.
Everything now just feels like a long movie chopped up into parts. The entire point of television is to be able to take time to flesh out characters and do some world-building. I miss the occasional “filler” episodes that are just plain fun.
Everything now just feels like a long movie chopped up into parts. The entire point of television is to be able to take time to flesh out characters and do some world-building. I miss the occasional “filler” episodes that are just plain fun.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:39 pm to Jack Ruby
Yea its sad that something so shite like Star Wars and Obi Wan are getting more attention. Damn shame..
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:51 pm to Jack Ruby
Amazon does it every Friday for The Boys and I look forward to it.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 9:17 pm to Jack Ruby
I think they are going to have to change or it will kill them.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:18 pm to Jack Ruby
I’ve never liked the concept of binge watching since that became a thing.
I miss shows coming out weekly and talking about them.
Game of thrones and Lost are perfect examples of this.
I miss shows coming out weekly and talking about them.
Game of thrones and Lost are perfect examples of this.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:37 pm to Jack Ruby
Meh. I watched the first episode and didn’t care for it. Too much irrelevant bullshite, woke and the kids are all kinda weird now more grown up. Plus the overly focus on HS angst and not the plot.
You may be right otherwise but IMO Stranger Things isn’t a good measure.
You may be right otherwise but IMO Stranger Things isn’t a good measure.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:17 am to Jack Ruby
I've been saying for years now that the Netflix binge model is awful for shows on their first run.
If Netflix released Stranger Things weekly it would have been able to build momentum and become a national talking point much like how Game of Thrones did on HBO. Instead, like you said, it gets forgotten about after a couple weeks.
The binge model gives a show almost zero chance to have any lasting cultural impact and absolutely stops anything in it's tracks that might need some word of mouth to build an audience. A show like Seinfeld would have been canceled just a couple days after it first released had it been a Netflix original.
Had there been no pandemic keeping everyone at home would shows like Tiger King or Squid Games even become hits? Probably not.
If Netflix released Stranger Things weekly it would have been able to build momentum and become a national talking point much like how Game of Thrones did on HBO. Instead, like you said, it gets forgotten about after a couple weeks.
The binge model gives a show almost zero chance to have any lasting cultural impact and absolutely stops anything in it's tracks that might need some word of mouth to build an audience. A show like Seinfeld would have been canceled just a couple days after it first released had it been a Netflix original.
Had there been no pandemic keeping everyone at home would shows like Tiger King or Squid Games even become hits? Probably not.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 12:20 am
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:30 am to Jack Ruby
I’ve felt like Netflix has been in the wrong about this for years. During COVID, when a popular show dropped every month or so, it could be done. But my wife and I binged the Witcher in three days, cobra Kai was about the same, and now Stranger Things is gone also almost as quickly.
If they are determined to stick with this binge model, then they need to drop an new season of something or popular new show every couple of weeks. It isn’t sustainable.
If they are determined to stick with this binge model, then they need to drop an new season of something or popular new show every couple of weeks. It isn’t sustainable.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:31 am
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:31 am to Jack Ruby
I subbed Netflix for one month to watch DTS.
Will sub again for one month next year.
Will sub again for one month next year.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 11:44 am to Jack Ruby
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Just look at this board. There are numerous discussions about a dogshit Star Wars show that the fans openly hate, yet it's week to week to week episodes keep the discussion going and the story fresh in people minds.
Star Wars is a multi-billion dollar franchise that has spawned nine episodic films, several spin-off movies, and now multiple spin-off TV shows. It has arguably the largest built-in fan base in all of fandom save for maybe the MCU. Stranger Things, while of a higher quality right now, is nowhere near as popular as Star Wars.
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