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Why are so many employers not able to get or keep employees?

Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Sasquatch45
Earth
Member since Jul 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:48 pm
It’s not uncommon to go to a corner store for a note on the door stating closed due to no employees.

Or wait in long lines to check out because of few employees.

Is the economy so good that people don’t have to work ?
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
1851 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:48 pm to
Brandon
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162852 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:50 pm to
Because most employers aren't as smart as we give them credit for is the simple answer.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
31678 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:53 pm to
The most basic explanation IMO is that never before in history have people been as lazy and unmotivated as they are now.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:53 pm to
I have a theory…

Unskilled workers that are moderately motivated are doing gig jobs. Stuff like uber, delivering groceries, and/or whatever other gig stuff is out there.

That leaves the least motivated and flakiest spread out across service industry jobs.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20435 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:57 pm to
I saw an interesting argument today.

The author argued that employees are moving into better jobs, they’re leaving the corner store because they can make more doing something else, in this tight market.
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
6526 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:27 pm to
Social media! It’s the root of all problems now. Hard work is no longer cool. Keeping up with the joneses is the end all be all
And this includes parents. Parents are also keeping up with other parents spoiling their kids because they want to be “seen” as they can do so as well
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
25586 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:29 pm to
Because nobody wants to pay good money to stupid people
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
48351 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

It’s not uncommon to go to a corner store for a note on the door stating closed due to no employees.

Or wait in long lines to check out because of few employees.

Is the economy so good that people don’t have to work ?


It’s crazy how many small businesses are running half staff trying to stay in business. The oil change business I take my vehicles to is only open an average of 4 days a week and it’s a crapshoot which days the open sign is displayed.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
886 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:34 pm to
Everyone with an ounce of work ethic and skill has used the last 2 years to move up into higher paying jobs. Even filming TikTok videos is a better paying gig than manning the drive thru or bussing tables. This leaves traditional entry level service industry work to the absolute dregs.

Think about it, personally I’d rather mow yards for $50 a pop, 30 min each than man the grill at McDonalds for 3-4 hours for the same pay. One takes hustle though.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29805 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:45 pm to
Easy. Covid hit and we paid the service industry workers to sit at home and live off the government. And they did. And now, after over a year of sitting at home, they didn’t want to go back to work. Because they’d rather sit at home and live off the government. And so long as we continue to subsidize that, they will continue to do so.

Posted by JBM210
Member since Dec 2010
3192 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:55 pm to
Free money too stay at home you douche
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5515 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:59 pm to
Basically the entire bottom third of the labor market has given up trying and is content just fricking around in perpetuity. They see no path toward the middle or upper class so don't even bother. The top two thirds are still working as intended.

There used to be an obligation to work well. Even the shite employees at food service jobs felt the need to be professional and try to deliver positive service to customers. This obligation meant some people did better than others, and through that there was a path toward upward mobility. This path takes time to develop.

In the last few years a complete "frick the customer" has overtaken a lot of lower class employees and they never have to bother to try because they know even if they do get fired they could get a random job somewhere else for a few days.
Posted by SortsaUsl
Member since Feb 2021
156 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:08 pm to
I am an able bodied and experienced offshore hand that cannot work because I did not take the vaccine!! I am on unpaid administrative leave because my company is a coward and will not fight for their employees!!!!
Posted by civilag08
Member since Feb 2011
806 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:13 pm to
It seems that the average age of the workforce has been increasing and more people retiring. People from working families may also be having less kids leaving less domestic born working people available requiring incentives to bring foreigner born people to fill the gaps. I honestly do not see the work ethic to be much different among generations. There are both lazy people and people with good work ethic (old and young) in my experience.

Another dynamic is that things often move towards the complicated, not towards the simple. Some of this seems to be caused by having to "fix" problems that have occurred, perhaps because someone along the way has screwed something up (or maybe because someone new came along and thought a certain way was better). Either way, more administrative controls seem to get put in place all the time (some good, some bad), but often increasing the work load (not decreasing) for fewer people available. Although the original intent may be good, over time, the administrative controls lose their original intent and get (mis)interpreted and sometimes leads to people doing more things to CYA rather than doing what make sense for a certain situation, leaving more and more work to do for an originally simpler task that at one time was also done in a sufficient manner without the same administrative controls.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
36997 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:14 pm to
The real answer that nobody is ready for is VR porn. These days once you’ve made a few hundred dollars to get a headset you really don’t need anything else. I’m hesitant to add in a fleshlight because I’m scared I’ll never come out.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:18 pm to
You create an incentive for people not to work by paying them.

If we have to pay people we should at least be getting something in return.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8401 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:42 pm to
I've been told I'm an insufferable a-hole so maybe that is why I have recently had difficulty in keeping employees.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20667 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:00 pm to
It is absolutely ridiculous this labor shortage.

We’ve been trying to find help for over a year at almost every position and can’t get it.

I don’t know where all these people are but if they’re just sitting at home that desperately needs to be addressed.

We need to bring manufacturing back to this country.

We don’t produce anymore. We just consume. That’s not sustainable. We’re a cancerous locust farm right now not a self sustaining organism.
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
76116 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:12 pm to
Why would I work for someone else during this time when I can start my own business and work for myself? I just did it.
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