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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E05 Thread “Black and Blue”

Posted on 5/11/22 at 12:19 am to
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 12:19 am to
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Do you think she moved the chair to put on a brave face for Jimmy or do you think she actually felt better after talking with Jimmy?


The episode opens with her looking at the clock. It says 3:17. In the reflection it spells LIE.
Posted by banone74
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 6:17 am to
I rarely catch those things, but I can confirm the vacuum repair shop business card being shown. I don’t recall if it showed who was holding it, but it was definitely there, should be easy to find.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 7:41 am to
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Doubtful, show me.



Its in the teaser scenes at the end for next week. It's male hands holding the notebook and female hands hold the business cards. I'm assuming it's Saul and Kim as it comes right after they are shown visiting the vet. I'm not going back to extract pics from a video.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 7:45 am to
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Kim holding some business cards which clearly are from the Best vacuum service.


Doubtful, show me.


Oh now this is rich, considering just a page or two back you told someone else that there was a big huge clue staring them in the face but you wouldn't be bothered to explain it to them and they'd have to figure it out themselves.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 7:52 am to
To be fair, it may not be Kim holding the card. But there are definitely 2 people looking over the notebook and the business card which clearly states "Best Quality Vacuum Repair". It's definitely male hands holding the notebook and what looks like female hands holding the vacuum repair shop business cards. It may or may not be Kim, but they did show Kim and Jimmy in the vets office earlier in the previews.
Posted by Bleed P&G
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:17 am to
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Kim holding some business cards which clearly are from the Best vacuum service.

Yes, this is clear in the preview.

LINK
Posted by tonic
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:27 am to
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Zero chance this is what happened.

When Jimmy and Kim were laying in bed he says to Kim, "I let Howard suck me in to his game. I should have left him standing there like a putz. Why did I do that?"

Jimmy and Kim may have thought or even wanted Howard to eventually find them out, but there is no way he went there that night to get in a ring with Howard.



Jimmy said those things in a regretful way. Kim's reply of "because you know how it ends" was expressing the point that Jimmy felt bad for Howard.

Am I saying that Jimmy knew they were going to box? No. Am I saying that Jimmy knew he was going there to meet Howard? Yes.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 9:28 am
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:32 am to
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Am I saying that Jimmy knew they were going to box? No. Am I saying that Jimmy knew he was going there to meet Howard? Yes.


I think we all agree on the major point that Jimmy and Kim assumed and probably wanted Howard to figure out it was them frickling with him......... So Howard's response, which comes next is probably going to fall in line with their plan.

Poor Howard about to get in a pile of shite, but will he take Kim down with him.
Posted by tonic
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:35 am to
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Poor Howard about to get in a pile of shite, but will he take Kim down with him.


I absolutely agree. Kim taking the vacuum repair service looks very likely.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:04 am to
Right now I am thinking Howard and his PI get killed.

Guessing Lalo either finds Kai or Casper? They both hate Mike/Gus.

Seems like a lot of people think Lalo is going to be buried underneath the super lab.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:08 am
Posted by dirtsandwich
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:12 am to
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Kim taking the vacuum repair service looks very likely.

Which leads me to think it will be something else. Though it also goes in well with Gene I guess.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:12 am to
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Guessing Lalo either finds Kai or Casper?


I can't imagine vince would take Lalo all the way to germany, and have him collect a clue while there, and it not come to any meaningful resolution. He's got to find out something so I agree it seems likely he'd run into one of those guys and get somethign out of em
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:16 am to
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I can't imagine vince would take Lalo all the way to germany, and have him collect a clue while there, and it not come to any meaningful resolution. He's got to find out something so I agree it seems likely he'd run into one of those guys and get somethign out of em



So, they would be able to tell him that they were working an excavation and they may have information on the strip club they went to that night. That should allow Lalo to find the location of the dry cleaner. where we are supposed to assume Gus kills him with the gun he planted on the track of that excavator.

So THAT won't happen. there must be a twist somewhere.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:21 am to
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they may have information on the strip club they went to that night. That should allow Lalo to find the location of the dry cleaner.


I can't remember specifics...what would one have to do wiht the other? Is it known that gus owns the laundry facility?
Posted by tonic
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:41 am to
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Which leads me to think it will be something else. Though it also goes in well with Gene I guess.


The problem in saying that Vince is going to throw a curveball about Kim disappearing is the fact that up until this season, most people here figured Kim would die.

I've been saying Kim will likely use the vacuum service for years now. Most people thought Nacho would be the one.

Now that more info is out there, my guess is looking pretty good.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:47 am to
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I can't remember specifics...what would one have to do wiht the other? Is it known that gus owns the laundry facility?


Well Lalo knows that they were working an excavation, and that Gus showed him a cold storage process center that was not underground. So he knows he is lying and wants his construction secret from the cartel. Knowing the name of a strip bar might lead to an area to search. I think most of Gus's investments are in his name (or incorporated in his name) so he can launder his money(like with Pollos Hermanos). A property records search would lead to Gus's properties in the area, one of which is the location for the excavation.


This might not be needed though. Gus had an epiphany when Mike was talking to him in the safehouse. Mike said Lalo would EVENTUALLY show up at Gus's house. Gus wants to end it. Gus went and hid the gun and set-up an ambush. I think Gus is planning to flush out Lalo at the excavation site and kill him there.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:51 am to
I'm not sure why it is assumed Lalo would do the deed himself and not send some hitmen (or cousins).....
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:57 am to
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A property records search would lead to Gus's properties in the area, one of which is the location for the excavation.


wouldn't that have been one of the first things lalo would've done? Like if he suspects taht the chicken plant thing that they showed him wasn't the actual project, wouldn't he immediately seek out other properties owned by gus?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:03 am to
Sure. But Gus got money... and properties all over. If Lalo can narrow the search parameters it would increase the chances of success.

Also Lalo has no right to just go poking around Gus's shite.

Preludes make me think Gus and Lalo meet up at laundry. Mike is "I'm right here" too (based on prelude).
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150868 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:34 am to
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Ham clearly is an avid watcher of the show and does have good points here and there, but the people wanting to stick up for him on this topic need to realize that his entire 5-year long thing has been that kim is working with Saul in BB, and up to now there is literally zero proof whatsoever of it.

Ham is also a very good detective IMO about finding spoilers online and then "predicting" things for the show. I also believe that a lot of his "analysis" is not his own, and the theory he pushes isn't something he, himself, came up with.

Just my $0.02.
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