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re: The left keep pushing back with rape and mother's life arguments

Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:27 am to
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:27 am to
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While I think most people agree with the life of the mother argument


I don’t. If the mother’s life is endanger you just deliver the baby. Her life isn’t dependent on whether the baby is killed or instead delivered.
Posted by OGM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2020
464 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:29 am to
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plan B pill the same as traditional abortion. They BOTH terminate a pregnancy
Not quite. Women aren’t actually pregnant until implantation. Plan B delays egg release &/ implantation. The same exact thing hormonal contraceptive pills do.

I’m pro-life, pro-responsibility. Life begins at implantation.
Posted by TheDude854
Member since May 2019
295 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:35 am to
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With regards to an emergency where the mother's life is on the line I think the mother should absolutely choose her life or the babies or in some cases if the mother doesn't survive then all is lost.


Only if the baby is not viable outside the womb yet. If it is past the point of viability, an emergency C-section should be done.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:35 am to
There are two types of people in the democrat party, the people that make money off their crazy policies. The rest are useful idiots. That’s why the politicians and media can float the rape and incest stuff and most of the idiots think that there are a shite ton of abortions due to those factors. Also the same reason CRT works as well cause people have no clue about our history anymore. My 11 year old only knows who Andrew Jackson is cause I told her.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:42 am to
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There would for sure be professional abortion lawyers taking advantage of it, thousands of women claiming they were raped when they weren't, etc.


That's how we got Roe in the first place. Norma admitted she was told to lie about her pregnancy.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41870 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:49 am to
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Not quite. Women aren’t actually pregnant until implantation. Plan B delays egg release &/ implantation. The same exact thing hormonal contraceptive pills do.

I’m pro-life, pro-responsibility
The argument is about when the child’s life begins. It’s why IVF is often times discussed in this context.

If life begins at conception, then purposefully ending that life by preventing implantation is the same as an abortion after implantation.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27058 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:50 am to
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don’t. If the mother’s life is endanger you just deliver the baby. Her life isn’t dependent on whether the baby is killed or instead delivered.


How does one “deliver” a baby? A Cesarean is not a little procedure. Inducing delivery of a 12 week gestation? That’s an abortion too Baw. And risky for the mother. In this scenario she is going through a medical emergency. You don’t want to draw those out.
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:55 am to
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This is the argument the left likes to pose Bc they know the pro-life crowd views the plan B pill the same as traditional abortion.
I don’t think that way….I’m ok with the morning after pill…it’s just another form of birth control. No one knows if they are pregnant or not when they use it.

I just don’t see it the same as a mid-term abortion. I realize my view might be inconsistent.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22405 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:57 am to
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I’m pro-life, pro-responsibility. Life begins at implantation.


You need to take that up with the Catholic Church bro. My understanding is the distinctly different human being (different DNA than mother or father) happens at conception.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22405 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:58 am to
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I don’t think that way….I’m ok with the morning after pill…it’s just another form of birth control. No one knows if they are pregnant or not when they use it. I just don’t see it the same as a mid-term abortion. I realize my view might be inconsistent.


Catholic Church is against chemical BC as well.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:00 am to
Why the morning after pill? Isn’t that just aborting the baby? Or are you saying there is a huge difference depending on how developed the fetus is? Which is what the left has always said.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:01 am to
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I'm against it in every situation.

You think a women who was raped should be forced to take the baby to term? That's fricked up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:01 am to
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Why the morning after pill? Isn’t that just aborting the baby?

MAP isn't abortion.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:03 am to
Do you ever call abortion murder? If so, why are you ok with murdering a baby just because someone else raped someone?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7656 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:03 am to
Of course she will go through a medical procedure. But killing the baby is not a requirement of the procedure.

Now, the baby is often not viable. But an abortion is not required, it is an option.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96911 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:03 am to
Rape / incest / mother’s life are standard cutouts and not really in question.

What becomes an issue is when someone cries rape when they just want an abortion. And you KNOW some bitch will retroactively declare rape once she is pregnant and doesn’t want to be.
Posted by Oddibe
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:03 am to
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Catholic Church is against chemical BC as well.
I’m not Catholic….But you bring up a good point….why hasn’t the Catholic Church, loudly and publicly, excommunicated every political figure in favor of abortion?
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41870 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:05 am to
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You think a women who was raped should be forced to take the baby to term? That's fricked up
Emotional argument, not a logical one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:06 am to
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Emotional argument, not a logical one.

That depends on the argument.

No argument was made in that quote.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96911 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:06 am to
Because Il Papa doesn’t want to rock the boat and cost the church potential donations every Sunday by doing something like calling out their own parishioners.

Hell, this particular Pope is one where I question whether someone should use “Is the Pope Catholic?” as an example of a stupid obvious question.
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