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The truth is Coach K Bill Self and Will Wade should have all been fired for cheating

Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:02 pm
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2669 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:02 pm
Or all 3 should have gotten a slap on the wrist. To say Wade was sloppy is not the full context. Self and K were sloppy too. We should still have Will Wade if Scotty had any balls. We all know they’re never firing K or Self. Scotty shite the bed on this one.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:04 pm to
The most troubling aspect of the firing was how Woodward and Tate abandoned the players and stripped them of an NCAA tournament experience with the coach they loved.
Posted by ArkTiger55
Mountainburg, AR.
Member since Jan 2016
2296 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:10 pm to
The dude is gone. Will you guys get over it good God.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37535 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:12 pm to
The last remnants of the NCAA will be struck upon LSU Basketball. All the blowhards, whether on TD, media, etc. will grasp at this moment. And they got what they wanted.

LSU basketball fans are the true losers here.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:20 pm to
It’s over. Move on.
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
585 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:49 pm to
The problem is two of those coaches have rings and multiple final 4 appearances under their belt. Wade overplayed his hand. He came to LSU thinking the brand would allow him to play the same game the big boys play. But he didn't consider the fact that LSU isn't a big boy in basketball. He knew we had the funds and the name but he didn't know we don't have the clout in his sport. It's actually a compliment to football and baseball. Think about this, OBJ handed players cash on national television and that was a big deal for a full week maybe. This has been a stain on the basketball team for years and will be for a few more and nobody actually saw Wade do anything. Most of our fans don't even know we lost scholarships in football. If the basketball team had the same level of respect as the football and baseball programs, this wouldn't be as big of a deal.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:21 pm to
Woodward being a rant favorite is the only reason he got a pass for pussing out and firing Wade. Crazy thing is they consider him one of us since he is from Baton Rouge but didn’t give O the same respect considering he is Louisiana born also.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 10:13 pm to
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Or all 3 should have gotten a slap on the wrist. To say Wade was sloppy is not the full context. Self and K were sloppy too. We should still have Will Wade if Scotty had any balls. We all know they’re never firing K or Self. Scotty shite the bed on this one.


I hate to say this because I love Wade but look at the schools K and Self represent, BASKETBALL SCHOOLS. Basketball there goes, their entire athletic department dies and from there no more TV and gate receipt revenue, they fight the NCAA hard to protect their cash cow bc that's all they have there. We're a diverse AD because football's our cash cow but other sports are good too, we can handle basketball being set back a year or so as long as our football team continues to reel in dough. In a just world, yes, the justice would fit the crime if it comes to that but it all comes down to game theory and risk reward for the respective schools.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59132 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 11:20 pm to
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Self and K were sloppy too.


Where was K sloppy? All anyone ever says is speculation about Zion and then some nonsense about “being naive” or “ worshiping” K if you don’t lump him with Wade er al which is just silly deflection. It’s not a matter of thinking he’s clean it’s a matter of show some proof not speculation
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 12:03 am to
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We should still have Will Wade if Scotty had any balls.
if you had any brains you'd understand Wade isn't a good coach. He was good at getting some talent but didn't know how to use the talent. you're blinded by your bias. Wade is not a good coach of basketball.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 7:12 am to
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To say Wade was sloppy is not the full context.


Absolutely - my point is not WW was not sloppy it's that the rank hypocrisy and double standard in treatment is ridiculous.

You'll here on Duke - there's no proof. Well there really is. Everyone knows what was done, but their is neither the willingness to work to get in nor the sack to go up against what they would have to go up against by the press to force action. We've seen the press force action with much less that is out there than they have against Duke. Gutless.

And as for Kansas - the NOA is out there including damning text messages from Self, that are backed up by testimony confirming the texts are what they seem.

Yet you wouldn't know it would you. The biggest collection of press for hoops all year all huddled in one place but not a peep. Hell, Dick did a 2-minute hit piece on LSU right in the middle of the SEC title game last year - carefully planned with a time-line and comments wondering how recruits could even consider coming to LSU given all this. Think CBS is going to have him as a guest to come on and do the same to Kansas tonight?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27732 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 7:43 am to
K really has not had to cheat since the early 90s. By that time the Duke brand was one of the gold standards....sort of like Saban nowadays at Alabama.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4087 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 9:11 am to
Will you geniuses ever understand that Will Wade was on tape and texted players and girlfriends of players about money? The other coaches didn’t do this. There isn’t a paper trail. He should have been fired in 2019.
Posted by gxtigs10
Member since Feb 2020
11 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 9:29 am to
Before I get over it and move on LOL....just need to say, they will never do anything to Duke, Kansas or Kentucky in basketball or Bama in football so get over it. They all cheat but now with NIL it no longer matters.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 7:35 pm to
the kansas City Star seems to be worried LINK
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4947 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 7:39 pm to
Woodward had the balls who needed to be fired despite his popularity with the fans.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71803 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 8:06 pm to
fricking Washington Post wrote an article saying Self could be the voice of college basketball now that K is gone. This is all they wrote about their investigation.
quote:

He has dealt with an NCAA infractions case that has hung over the program and, in generations past, might muddy his legacy. But in a world in which players can now (rightfully) be compensated for their market value, what once seemed seedy can become aboveboard.

Blue blood privilege and an unflinching AD go a long way.
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2666 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 7:40 am to
The first step in the grieving process over the loss of a loved one is anger and denial.
Posted by Herodijontiger
Myrtle Beach S.C.
Member since Apr 2021
902 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:58 pm to
I agree 100% but you left out Calipari and Pearl. You know NCAA had something on them but would not pursue it, because wasn't as blatant as the other 3. Went for low hanging fruit and didn't want to fire their blue blood legends and tarnish their rep's. Like what happened to Joe Pa. Will Wade was the newby and gaining traction by cheating just like their heros' but they didn't like it and had to dispose of him, before he and LSU took over NCAA basketball.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 12:59 pm
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