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An independent nation has THE RIGHT to sovereignty, AND to have their arse kicked

Posted on 3/5/22 at 9:54 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18568 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 9:54 am
Happened that way for 1000s of years. Dont start no shat and there wont be no shat. Putin called a red line and Ukraine and NATO kept itching and a scratching.

He told you what would happen, you did it anyway, and now are AGHAST that he has responded in such fashion.

Can we please get off the sovereign country bullshite. You have every right as a US citizen to walk freely in this country....so take your white suburban arse with your 300 dollar nikes to the 9th Ward and tell the residents about your sovereign rights....but take an ID, not to vote you dont need one for that, but so they can identify the body.

What kind of suburban bubble do you people live in. Unfortunately might does make right.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36317 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 9:56 am to
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Ukraine and NATO kept itching and a scratching.


When did Ukraine join NATO?
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 9:58 am to
Okay Vladimir. Keep bombing citizens.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25757 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 9:58 am to
I’m still at a loss to understand how or why any of this is our problem. Did we or NATO enter into a pact to protect Ukraine? Are we looking to now? Why are we involved? What do we get out of it?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18568 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:00 am to
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When did Ukraine join NATO?


Ud lee ingles?
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32080 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:00 am to
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Gray Connolly
@GrayConnolly
The current CIA Director, William Burns [left], and a former CIA Director (and US Defense secretary), Robert Gates [right], both warned years ago, in the clearest terms, of the inevitable Russian response to any attempt to expand NATO to include Ukraine.
Are these two Putinists?




Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2881 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:02 am to
trinidadtiger imagine being such a cuck and believing that shite
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
2052 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:04 am to
The issue at hand is that Russia tore up the Budapest Memorandum that Clinton signed in 1994. It promised Ukraine would give up their nukes in return for Unwavering Security Guarantees they would not be invaded. Russia broke that promise, and is now slaughtering children. They are running around with blood squirting out their shoulder because there arm was knocked off.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36317 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:04 am to
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Ud lee ingles?



I’m just confused how Ukraine continuing to not be in NATO gives russia any right to invade.

Given you support vlad I thought you might could enlighten me

Why should a Ukrainian suffer because Latvia is in nato. Putin is too much of a wuss to actually attack them though
This post was edited on 3/5/22 at 10:07 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53294 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:05 am to
So after literally decades of US mismanagement and misapprehension of the entire landscape of this particular part of the world, suddenly, the thing to do is for the USA to send the US military to fight Russia in Ukraine.

This is amateur reactive response mechanism born of ignorance and desperation.

We need a new country on this land that we call America. The USA is definitely played-out.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18568 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:06 am to
Cuban is a sovereign country, so you are okay with supersonic nukes there correct?
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3822 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:06 am to
As usual, our state dept was the tip of the spear in causing this geo-political conflict and their propaganda arm has the people of America outraged with BS.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:07 am to
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trinidadtiger imagine being such a cuck and believing that shite



You believe the filth crossing our border illegally is a good thing.

You are an idiot.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5893 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:08 am to
civilians are not being targeted
Ukraine is not sovereign,russian territory
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53294 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:08 am to
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I’m just confused how Ukraine continuing to not be in NATO gives russia any right to invade.



Anybody who argues that Russia had "any right" to invade Ukraine is absolutely and profoundly wrong about that.

But Biden is the Foreign Policy Expert. His failure to accurately and pro-actively address this situation before the invasion is a profound failure on the part of Biden's America.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32080 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:08 am to
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their propaganda arm has the people of America outraged with BS.



Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5893 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:09 am to
it`s not an invasion it`s liberation
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116648 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:13 am to
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Happened that way for 1000s of years. Dont start no shat and there wont be no shat.


For 1,000s of years countries that didn't 'start no shat' got clobbered anyway.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18568 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:14 am to
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I’m just confused how Ukraine continuing to not be in NATO gives russia any right to invade.

Given you support vlad I thought you might could enlighten me


You cant challenge ballot boxes and the potential for harvesting because the election has not happened........you have no standing the election is over.

And you are obviously confused about right and wrong....this is the real world not some Disney version of what you would like it to be. If you did not heed his warnings then you get the consequences.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14956 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:15 am to
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I’m still at a loss to understand how or why any of this is our problem. Did we or NATO enter into a pact to protect Ukraine? Are we looking to now? Why are we involved? What do we get out of it?



We sort of, kind of, agreed to help Ukraine if they were attacked in exchange of them getting rid of their nuclear weapons.

Short video explaining:
LINK

It's not a binding treaty, but they are getting screwed.



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