So, no NATO Country will step in physically since Ukraine is not NATO?

Nothing is stopping them if they wish, but there's no obligation.

Do you want WW3? Do you understand the ramifications of what you are saying?

Chrome can you explain to me? I don’t understand any of it.

I could, but if you don't already understand, it would be a waste of time and effort.

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I mean....they are kind of letting their potential future member out to dry.

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The fact that you're even talking about them being a future member is why Putin is doing what he's doing.


We the USSR peacefully feel apart part of the deal was that the West not militarize Russia's border. But now here we are with a corrupt western puppet state attempting to do just that.

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And yet Trump is a meanie for telling NATO to meet their fricking commitments or the US is out.

That was done with the distinct purpose of telling Western Europe that the free ride is over and they need to start living up to their fricking treating obligations.

Ukraine is the reason why Ukraine hasn’t been admitted to NATO. American politicians over the years haven’t helped, but Ukraine should have made better decisions the last 20 years.

In keeping with your metaphor, Russia may be turning the key, but Ukraine left it there.

82nd Army Airborne set up in Poland at the Ukranian border.

HOOAH!

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Russia entering Ukraine is like Germany entering Czechoslovakia in 1938-39. Czechoslovakia had a sizable German minority. Ukraine has a sizable Russian minority. Hitler said Czechoslovakia was an illegitimate state. Putin says Ukraine is an illegitimate state. Hitler said the German minority in Czechoslovakia was being persecuted. Putin says the Russian minority in Ukraine is being persecuted. We all know what Hitler did a few months later. What will Putin do?

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There is one small variable between the two situations. No one had nukes in the 1930s.

The problem the U.S. has is if they commit to a massive military build up in Ukraine then China will take the opportunity to invade Taiwan and then the U.S. has to pick who to save. No way between the bumblefricks in the Pentagon and the State Department, the general military fatigue in the country, and growing obsoleteness of military technology are we going to be successful splitting our focus between both China and Russia simultaneously. China is not Japan in WWII. They have plenty of natural resources and raw materials to sustain a long term military effort. The fact that Russia and China had joint military training manuevers a few months ago complicates things too. The U.S. doesn't know exactly what has been negotiated between Russia and China.

As far as the U.S. is concerned the simpler this remains the better. The U.S. just wants to have to read Putin's mind. It doesn't want to also have to figure out how China will react to various situations or what North Korea will do in various situations or any other country that could end up being a pain in the arse is going to do given any particular situation. The fewer people at the house party the less mess there is going to be to clean up the next day.