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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:42 pm to
Like I stated that is about 25%, and much of the objection in the past was on oversight of disposition. Funds for AG oversight included in present package included in Ominibus
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:11 pm to
Proud of my congressman for being on this list.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:15 pm to
Zelensky gave a good speech tonight. I think it will be effective in keeping US public support high, and it will resonate in the rest of the world as well.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
12503 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:25 pm to
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Oh no, this most recent appropriation will be the last.

Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37503 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:40 pm to
Z presenting to the US congress a flag signed by soldiers in Bakhmut yesterday is a really cool. It's wild that some of the guys who signed it may not even be alive today to see it get presented.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37503 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Zelensky gave a good speech tonight. I think it will be effective in keeping US public support high, and it will resonate in the rest of the world as well.



He pretty much locked up US support moving forward. Outside of a major surprise, I believe this trip was exactly what he needed to ensure he can maintain momentum.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:46 pm to
The last large appropriation. But after this 40 bil is spent the Russian will be wiping their asses with sticks so not as much will be needed.

Happy Holidays
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:03 pm to
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Russian will be wiping their asses with sticks so not as much will be needed.



I heard a retired general say the Ukes had achieved irreversible momentum. I hope you are both right.

Slava Ukraini!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
100767 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:09 pm to
Meanwhile on the poliboard

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posted by JackieTreehorn ? on 12/21/22 at 7:23 pm to tgrbaitn08

Putin should annihilate Kiev tonight.


This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 8:13 pm
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
16244 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:11 pm to
But hey, they’re not rooting for Putin and Russia, so don’t you dare call them Putin lovers!
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
12503 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:12 pm to
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But after this 40 bil is spent the Russian will be wiping their asses with sticks so not as much will be needed.

Perhaps we have nukes to look forward to in 2023 then.

Merry Christmas
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19115 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:14 pm to
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Russian will be wiping their asses with sticks


I only got to spend one day in St. Petersburg in 1992, but that was enough to tell you that they were basically wiping their asses with sticks then: the "toilet paper" looked like it was sliced straight off a tree.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
100767 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:15 pm to
They're losing their shite over Zelensky's visit to Washington.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
16244 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:18 pm to
The melt is big time over there right now. They’re showing their true colors.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
54027 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:20 pm to
Ukraine winning yet?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4130 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:29 pm to
ISW Update

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Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu presided over a Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) Collegium in Moscow on December 21 and made significant statements pertaining to Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine and the strategic direction of the Russian military.


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The Kremlin intensified its information operation accusing NATO expansion of presenting a military threat to Russia.[1] Shoigu stated that NATO’s military expansion near Russian borders, including Finland’s and Sweden’s NATO membership aspirations, necessitates an "appropriate" Russian response to establish a Russian force group in northwestern Russia.[2] Senior Kremlin officials said that the accession of the Nordic states to NATO would not threaten Russia in spring 2022. Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov stated that Finland and Sweden joining NATO would not present an existential threat to Russia in April 2022 and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov stated that Finland and Sweden joining NATO would not make "much difference" in May 2022.[3]


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Shoigu publicly presented a series of proposed Russian defense policy changes to significantly increase the size of the Russian military. Shoigu proposed that Russia reestablish the Moscow and Leningrad military districts, form a new army corps, and form 17 new maneuver divisions.[4] Shoigu suggested that Russia form a new army corps in Karelia, two new airborne assault divisions, three new motorized rifle divisions in occupied Kherson and Zaporizhia oblasts, and expand seven existing brigades of the Northern Fleet and Western, Central, and Eastern Military districts into seven new motorized rifle divisions while expanding five existing naval infantry brigades into five naval infantry divisions....This is not the first time the Russian MoD has signaled its intention to reverse the 2008 Serdyukov reforms that largely disbanded Russian ground forces divisions in favor of independent brigades. The Russian MoD has been steadily reversing the Serdyukov reforms by restoring maneuver divisions across Russian military districts since 2013.[6]


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The Kremlin is very unlikely to form such a large conventional force in a timeline that is relevant for Russia’s war in Ukraine, however. Forming divisions is costly and takes time. It took the Russian military over a year to reform the 150th Motorized Rifle Division (8th Combined Arms Army) between 2016 and 2017, for example.[7] Russia was unable to fully staff its existing brigades and regiments before the full-scale invasion and had not fully built out a new division it announced it was forming in 2020 before the start of the 2022 invasion of Ukraine....Shoigu’s proposals could be an overture to placate the milblogger community who have accused the Kremlin of not conducting the war seriously or taking the measures necessary to win the war


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The Kremlin can form a large conventional military along the lines Shoigu described that would be capable of posing a renewed and serious threat to NATO if Russian President Vladimir Putin decides to fundamentally change Russia’s strategic resource allocation over the long run. Putin directly addressed Shoigu and the Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov stating that Russia has no financial limitations and must provide everything the Russian Armed Forces request.[12] While Russia is unlikely to reform large divisions while continuing its invasion of Ukraine, Russia’s military defeats in Ukraine may persuade Putin to change Russia’s strategic resource allocation for the Russian military.


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Putin and Shoigu demonstrated that Russia is not interested in reducing its war efforts or its war aims, despite the growing toll on Russian society. Putin reiterated that Russia will ensure the safety of all Russian territories including illegally-annexed territories in Ukraine while at the MoD Collegium.[13] Putin and Shoigu repeatedly rejected the idea of independent Ukrainian sovereignty and emphasized Russia’s need to keep Ukraine within the Kremlin’s sphere of influence and defeat the Ukrainian "Nazi" regime.


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The reiteration of Putin’s February 24 goals indicates that the Kremlin is deciding to embrace the sacrifices of the war and attempt to push on to victory. The Kremlin will need to continue to ask for and justify great sacrifices from its people to pursue these unrealistic goals. Shoigu attempted to justify the societal cost of mobilization, acknowledging that mobilization was "a serious test" for Russian society necessary to defend newly acquired territories in Ukraine


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Putin and Shoigu maintained the Kremlin’s information operation that seeks to coerce the West into pushing Ukraine to negotiate on Russia’s terms. Shoigu claimed during his speech that the Kremlin is always open to holding constructive, peaceful negotiations.[16] Putin and Shoigu likely reiterated Russian maximalist goals at the Russian MoD Collegium at a time when Ukrainian officials are discussing the possibility of a renewed Russian large-scale offensive in the winter of 2023 and voices are rising in the West calling for Ukraine to initiate negotiations with Moscow to add further pressure on Ukraine to negotiate on Russian terms


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Putin significantly intensified his efforts to make peace with the critical pro-war community in the past 48 hours. Putin admitted at the MoD collegium meeting that Russian forces had faced challenges with mobilization, lack of drones and new equipment, and signals.[19] Shoigu acknowledged similar concerns echoing criticism from prominent Russian milbloggers for 10 months of the war.[20] Putin then asked the Russian MoD "to be attentive" to all criticism and "hear those who do not hush up the existing problems," noting that the ministry will be in constant dialogue with such critics.

Putin also established a working group on December 20 that will address issues with mobilization and offer social and legal support for participants of the "special military operation," empowering some milbloggers.


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Putin is likely seeking to preempt further criticism and regain control over the domestic narrative in support of a protracted war. Putin has exhibited a pattern in which he gradually grants a level of limited authority to select milbloggers following an increase in criticism.....Putin remains unlikely to persecute Russian milbloggers due to his commitment to continue this war and is likely attempting instead to introduce a culture of self-censorship within the milblogger community....Putin may also attempt to recruit additional milbloggers from other nationalist factions in the information space. Putin’s mobilization group notably did not include figures closely affiliated with the Wagner Group or Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, and instead targeted a group that has already gained some prominence on Russian state outlets.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
54027 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:29 pm to
No? Yes? Just wondering how many billions we have to give before Europe pays for its own created problems.

Pathetic leftists…..

Meanwhile the Zelensky/Biden circle jerk continues
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 8:31 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
37906 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:34 pm to
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Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:34 pm to
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sta4ever


How does that Zelensky/Biden dick taste?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:36 pm to
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No? Yes?


Hey look a wing nut that talks to himself, shocker
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