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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:58 pm to
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There's a lower limit to how small they can be. To make it explode at all you have to assemble a critical mass.

done with pressure on the fuel?

heat or explosive?
Posted by thewarmth
Bali
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:58 pm to
More like JJJimmyJimJones, amirite?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:00 pm to
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More like JJJimmyJimJones, amirite?

actually my name is Rufus.

But dont call me out for only riding 3000 miles per year
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:03 pm to
Just when I thought the poliboard couldn't get any more deranged, they start a thread on how crazy the OT war thread is.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:04 pm to
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I mean, there's supposedly a video out there of a Russian soldier's corpse being devoured by a group of pigs. But I don't need to see that.


Who does? All I’m saying is that gory, violent things have been on the internet for a while, and you can become completely desensitized to that sort of media. The most fricked up clips absent this war is all the Narco footage coming out of Mexico.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:05 pm to
The majority of that "Ukrainian" aid probably never leaves the Beltway.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:05 pm to
I see the talk of Russia possibly using tactical “battlefield” nukes is gaining steam. There’s only one problem with this. The Russian army can barely pull off fighting a conventional war as it is. Add in the fact of having to carry out combat operations in a nuclear/biological/chemical (NBC) environment, and they’d lose what little battlefield cohesion and capability they currently have.

The Red Army of the 1970s and 80s was trained and equipped to fight a NBC war. But the Russian Army of 2022 is neither trained nor equipped to do so, especially after the horrendous losses it’s taken to it’s best trained divisions. It’s merely a shadow of what once was.

I’m not saying it’s impossible that Russia might go with the nuclear option. A cornered animal will do desperate things after all. But, unless they’re even more stupid than we supposed, it would be a huge mistake to do so.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 9:17 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:06 pm to
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done with pressure on the fuel?


These days, yes. A shpere of Pu is compressed by an explosive lens into a critical mass. Not the only way to do it of course. You could simply bring two sub-critical pieces together. That's how Little Boy (the Hiroshima bomb) worked.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:08 pm to
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You could simply bring two sub-critical pieces together


I've seen articles written in the context of nuclear terrorism that claim just slamming two uranium plates together would do it, and simply dropping one plate onto another from a few feet might be enough. No idea if it's true.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:10 pm to
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Just when I thought the poliboard couldn't get any more deranged, they start a thread on how crazy the OT war thread is.



I clicked on that just for a few giggles. They of course have several loons who believe Russia has been saving all their good equipment and troops for what is now going to be the real war.

Also saw the talking points about Russia doing this to outsmart NATO. NATO countries are now almost out of war equipment and Russia will "take off the gloves".
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:10 pm to
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The most fricked up clips absent this war is all the Narco footage coming out of Mexico.


There's an English guy with a youtube channel who just verbally describes narco videow without showing anything. He has a lot of subscribers.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:15 pm to
It's true if the plates are of the right mass. As I said that's essentially how Little Boy worked. However you can't do that with Pu, only Uranium. With Pu, the bomb would blow itself apart before the pieces got close enough together to produce a decent yield. Pu requires that you start with a barely sub-critical sphere and compress it into criticality. For a variety of reasons Pu is the preferred fuel over U so that's the method now used.
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:16 pm to
My fear is that the better the Ukrainians are doing, the better the chance Putin lets a few tac nukes fly to get Ukraine to the treaty table. His conventional forces certainly aren’t making it happen.

And the Ukrainians are doing very well right now.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98699 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:16 pm to
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I see the talk of Russia possibly using tactical “battlefield” nukes is gaining steam. There’s only one problem with this. The Russian army can barely pull off fighting a conventional war as it is. Add in the fact of having to carry out combat operations in a nuclear/biological/chemical (NBC) environment, and they’d lose what little battlefield cohesion and capability they currently have.


Russia has long since lost any battlefield cohesion. But it may not stop Putin. He might be thinking of some kind of shock and awe gambit to get everybody's attention. Popping a nuke surely would, whether it actually achieved any operational success or not. He could even just conduct a "test" on an existing missile range. It would make him even more of a pariah but it would also ratchet up calls for a diplomatic solution by several orders of magnitude.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:22 pm to
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He might be thinking of some kind of shock and awe gambit to get everybody's attention. Popping a nuke surely would, whether it actually achieved any operational success or not.

Or Putin could be deposed by people that think he isn't crazy enough and they could start popping off nukes. Either way would galvanize the entire world against Russia.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65098 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:22 pm to
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Russia has long since lost any battlefield cohesion. But it may not stop Putin. He might be thinking of some kind of shock and awe gambit to get everybody's attention. Popping a nuke surely would, whether it actually achieved any operational success or not. He could even just conduct a "test" on an existing missile range. It would make him even more of a pariah but it would also ratchet up calls for a diplomatic solution by several orders of magnitude.


Well, as I said, a cornered animal will do anything so it’s possible. But if he does, then he’s completely divorced himself from reality akin to Hitler in the Führerbunker underneath the ruin of Berlin circa April 1945.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:23 pm to
Does Ukraine have nukes or possibility of getting them?
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:25 pm to
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There's an English guy with a youtube channel who just verbally describes narco videow without showing anything. He has a lot of subscribers.


Do you know the channel name? I’ve always been fascinated/horrified by the cartel savagery. The stuff of nightmares. I’ve always stayed far away from the actual torture videos, but I’d be curious to check this guys channel out if what he does is just talk about specific incidents.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:27 pm to
The Polish army would be an immense problem for Putin if it came to that. One thing is for certain, aside from Russias nukes, their military is in self destruct mode right now where the world doesn’t fear them anymore.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65098 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:28 pm to
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Does Ukraine have nukes or possibility of getting them?


When Ukraine declared their independence after the fall of the Soviet Union, they immediately became one of the world’s largest nuclear powers. However, in exchange for (1) Russian promises of non-aggression and (2) security assurances from the west, including the United States, Ukraine gave up its entire nuclear arsenal.

There’s rumors they stashed away a few small “suitcase” nukes. But that’s never been confirmed.

(The most odd things in this thread get downvoted. I expressed no opinion on anything and only stated known facts. Yet, somehow that’s objectionable. Why? At least state your disagreement.)
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 9:40 pm
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