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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:58 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:58 am to
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Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:58 am to
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While that percentage is dropping, their demand has skyrocketed so that 60% is, in raw terms, more than their 80% in 2010. And they have hundreds of new coal plants under construction.



I think some of the demographic issues could mediate some of that demand, as China's situation is complicated due to their high median age and low birthrate in the long-term.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Yes of course you voted Johnson

Everyone voted Johnson after the results came in


Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65109 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:10 pm to
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China gets almost 60% of their electricity from coal.

While that percentage is dropping, their demand has skyrocketed so that 60% is, in raw terms, more than their 80% in 2010. And they have hundreds of new coal plants under construction.


China has lead to a coal boom in Alabama. I’m seeing activity from the mines on a rate I’ve not seen in 20+ years. China’s power plant coal demand is so high that steam coal is more per ton than met coal right now. And the forecasts I’ve seen says this will last at least two or three more years.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:13 pm to
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1569350893958471681
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LPR volunteer Murz reports the Ukrainian Armed Forces cross Seversky Donets at Bilohorivka and flanked the LPR 2nd Amry Corps still defending Lyman.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263320 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:13 pm to
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Meh it will come from assets that the USA and the west has seized from Russia.


That's wishful thinking. Based on past experience, the USA will most likely print money and get more involved.

The propaganda put out through US outlets isn't accidental, theres money to be made from our generosity.

If Europe steps up, I'm all for it.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:15 pm to
Looks like Lyman is going to get caught in a 3 prong pincher attack.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1569340574779731971
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Russians confirmed entry of Ukrainian forces into Svyatohirs'k which complicates defence of Lyman. It's important to remember this is Donetsk Oblast, the very are the Russians promised to "liberate" at all costs.

Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:16 pm to
https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1569338519302148101
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FLASH TRAFFIC /KHERSON 1500/ UTC 12 SEP/ Breaking information from the UKR General Staff reports that RU units on the N bank of the Dnieper are presently negotiating the surrender of their positions and weapons. It is unknown if this a localized or a general capitulation.

Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:24 pm to
https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1569360201333239808
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ACROSS THE BORDER: Reports and video indicate that UKR deep strike weapons have interdicted a target in or near the Russian city of Taganrog, east of Mariupol.



There is confirmation of an explosion in Taganrog from Russian Telegram channels...
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36178 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:32 pm to
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If you have about 5 minutes check out this "roundtable" on Russian State TV where voices of opposition to the war (funny, they are not calling it by that stupid military operation termm anymore!) are blasting what is going on.

LINK


Very interesting

You can see the language and the thinking at work.

The opening speaker was careful to place blame on everyone advising Putin (but not quite Putin). He seemed to criticize everything about the war effort.

Another rebuked him pretty much arguing that they needed to liquidate the Nazi regime of Ukraine. There was talk of general mobilization.

The moderator I thought implied the option of escalating with nuclear weapons but didn't seem to get any traction.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9881 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:34 pm to
Most of it was restored in a few hours.
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1867 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:37 pm to
Lol, your circle jerk support for Ukraine is cringe

Question: how many more billions need to be sent there?

Where I come from, it’s survival of the fittest. Ukraine played with fire and is now paying the price. Also, elections have consequences.
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1867 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:40 pm to
It matters because some land disputes are handled diplomatically and some are handled military

Both solutions exist in the real world, baw
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Video of 2 SU25's taking off from Crimea, one crashes.


Good lord. No indication it was hit? Are their planes just falling from the sky now?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9881 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:44 pm to
Ukraine will be rebuilt with help of the EU and with $300 billion held in check by DC. It will rid itself of that crappy old Soviet Era housing and cobbled together manufacturing at old Soviet built inefficient plants.

Russia loses the largest market it ever had since the fall of the USSR. It will make half of that up with China. It definitely cannot afford to give the discounts it had to give for crude oil sales. The entire world has seen that Russian military equipment is substandard at best.

Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
957 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Where I come from, it’s survival of the fittest.

LOL..OK
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Where I come from, it’s survival of the fittest. Ukraine played with fire and is now paying the price. Also, elections have consequences.



What in the hell are you talking about?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26163 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Good lord. No indication it was hit? Are their planes just falling from the sky now?


Maybe one of the pilots can take a look and speculate. It seemed to me when they started to bank after takeoff they seemed to get a little too close and it looked to me like one over corrected in his oh shite moment. I did only watch it once and I am not qualified to fly a paper airplane.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:47 pm to
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It matters because some land disputes are handled diplomatically and some are handled military


Are you saying that because Ukraine used to be part of the Soviet Union, that gives Russia justification for invading them? That is what your responses indicate, is this correct?

If not, please expand on what you mean.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:47 pm to
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It matters because some land disputes are handled diplomatically and some are handled military

Both solutions exist in the real world, baw


Do you literally know anything about this conflict at all? Because it appears you don't.
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