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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/2/22 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Antisemitism long predates the Nazis. It’s more than that. Ukraine was notoriously compliant with the Nazis in helping them hunt down Jews.


Ah yes the Ukraine that was totally autonomous during world war 2 and was not in anyway dictated over by Stalin notoriously anti semitic ussr .
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19604 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 5:58 pm to
The DPR is very transparent about their losses.


Killed, wounded, total.


The red is probably two things, Mariupol, and the way the Russians and the militia were fighting at the beginning of the war, before the shift to a pure firepower approach.

Look how low they are now.

Meanwhile, you have western news reporters interviewing Ukrainian soldiers that report that their units have suffered 80%, and 90% casualties.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110154 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:00 pm to
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Ah yes the Ukraine that was totally autonomous during world war 2 and was not in anyway dictated over by Stalin notoriously anti semitic ussr .


I mean, next to Vichy France, they were the worst and most compliant of the conquered territories. Ukraine’s treatment of Jews was atrocious during the Third Reich.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12315 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:01 pm to
So those who stormed the Capitol on 1/6 with flags adorned with swastikas, shirts that read “Auschwitz prison staff” and the like were patriots?
So much for ideological purity.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 6:03 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8038 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:02 pm to
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quote: You don’t think there’s an eaual amount of neo naziism in russia/ the Russian army? I know there’s not a state sponsored regiment of them. And no, outside of Jews, who hates Nazis more than the Russians?


No, they just contract out with them instead. And use them in Ukraine (both in ‘14 and now), Syria, etc. Or do Rusich, the Russian Imperial Legion, et al not count?

You’re parroting a prime Russian propaganda piece that has, at very best, a quarter truth. There are almost certainly at least as many Nazi and Nazi-adjacent types in the Russian army as there are in the Ukrainian army. Part and parcel of doing business in Eastern Europe.

Oh, and only one side actually acted upon imperial national socialist ideology by invading another fricking country, and it wasn’t the Azov Regiment.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110154 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:04 pm to
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Good grief, especially post WWII and trade with the world.


Yeah, you think what we’ve done since WWII has all been basically justified. Outside of invading Afghanistan after Bin Laden, no war we’ve fought in has been worth it and was not started on lies. You’re probably the biggest warmonger on this thread and haven’t seen a foreign policy issue you didn’t think you could solve with a sniper or a missile.

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FWIW, a friend who has made a killing in trading, plastics, chemicals, ores, scrap, oil products to China always hated having to do business with Russians. The Russians are not honest at all. My friend's background is his father was head of China's nuclear power program, his uncle an ambassador to Turkey, his older brother gets the inquiries in Shanghai while he in Houston sources supplies. I was introduced to him by Shell Chemical. He did his time as a young adult in a Mao re-education camp then left of Galveston as soon as he could. Learned English working as a dishwasher, selling hot dogs at the Astrodome, etc.. before he got into first importing dart boards from China which then morphed into his business.

This talk about BRICS is about as ridiculous speculation of know nothings about relationships between those nations.


So let’s just go to war with them then. Obviously we’re in the right and have always been in the right since WWII. If you ran this country, you’d get us all killed.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 6:08 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36503 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:04 pm to
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I mean, next to Vichy France, they were the worst and most compliant of the conquered territories. Ukraine’s treatment of Jews was atrocious during the Third Reich.


Because they were run by the ussr you arse clown. Remember this whole entire other genocide called the Holodomor? Do you think actual Ukrainians had any say over their own country ? Have some self respect man.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 6:06 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110154 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:06 pm to
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So those who stormed the Capitol on 1/6 with flags adorned with swastikas, shirts that read “Auschwitz prison staff” and the like were patriots?
So much for ideological purity.


Oh for frick’s sake, you binary thinkers are fricking morons. If I’m not for giving a trillion dollars to fricking Ukraine pointing out their corruption, then I’m a Putin stooge. You’re a moron.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110154 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:06 pm to
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Because they were run by the ussr you arse clown. Remember this whole entire other genocide called the Holodomor? Do you think actual Ukrainians had any say over their own country ?


I’m saying they relatively gleefully turned over their Jews and didn’t try to hide them for a second.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32555 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:08 pm to
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I mean, next to Vichy France, they were the worst and most compliant of the conquered territories




Oh...well...


I'm happy to see you took my advice and researched Vichy France.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:08 pm to
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So those who stormed the Capitol on 1/6 with flags adorned with swastikas, shirts that read “Auschwitz prison staff” and the like were patriots?


You didnt answer the question?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110154 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:10 pm to
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No, they just contract out with them instead. And use them in Ukraine (both in ‘14 and now), Syria, etc. Or do Rusich, the Russian Imperial Legion, et al not count?

You’re parroting a prime Russian propaganda piece that has, at very best, a quarter truth. There are almost certainly at least as many Nazi and Nazi-adjacent types in the Russian army as there are in the Ukrainian army. Part and parcel of doing business in Eastern Europe.

Oh, and only one side actually acted upon imperial national socialist ideology by invading another fricking country, and it wasn’t the Azov Regiment.


Oh frick off. You binary thinkers can’t think in nuance whatsoever. Either I’m for giving the most corrupt country in Europe a blank check or I’m a Putin cocksucker. Read a fricking history book. Look at propaganda in the past. It’s either send them a couple of nukes or you’re a communist. Many of you would get us all killed if you were in charge.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 6:11 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36503 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:11 pm to
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I’m saying they relatively gleefully turned over their Jews and didn’t try to hide them for a second.


“They” were the Russians you clown. You are absolutely lying to yourself if you are telling yourself anything otherwise.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110154 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:11 pm to
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“They” were the Russians you clown. You are absolutely lying to yourself if you are telling yourself anything otherwise.


Go talk to an older Jew about Ukraine and see what they have to say.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110154 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:14 pm to
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You didnt answer the question?


I renounce them, but retard binary thinkers can’t see nuance like yourself. I’m not doing this Maoist struggle session and whataboutism you warmongers want to do. Y’all are going to feel so stupid in a year or two. Just unlimited cash to one of the most corrupt governments in the world. What could go wrong?
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8038 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:15 pm to
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frick off. You binary thinkers can’t think in nuance whatsoever. Either I’m for giving the most corrupt country in Europe a blank check or I’m a Putin cocksucker. Read a fricking history book. Look at propaganda in the past. It’s either send them a couple of nukes or you’re a communist. Many of you would get us all killed if you were in charge


It’s not binary thinking, you dim witted cum stain. It’s plain truth. It’s been a key Russian propaganda piece since the beginning.

It is painful to see you act like a woman on her period over and over again in this thread. The people with actual experience in war, including me, have repeatedly pointed out how much of a vagina you’ve consistently been.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32555 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:15 pm to
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t worked well until Woodrow Wilson came along.





You willing to quit your career to go work in a factory?



I always see people on here complaining about how we don't have any manufactoring capabilities anymore (which is a lie. We are almost on par with China) but I don't see any of you willing to go work in those factories to cement the industry you so desperately want us to have.

Y'all bitch and moan about this shite, but want others to do it for you.

And then y'all give the reason for your not willing to work in those factories as "I worked hard to not have to do that type of labor."

frick y'all. We pushed education in this country so hard that we've achieved the reason for pushing it: so we wouldn't have to labor in those fields.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110154 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:16 pm to
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“They” were the Russians you clown. You are absolutely lying to yourself if you are telling yourself anything otherwise.


No it’s a little bit of both. Seriously, go talk to an older Jew and ask them about Ukraine. They are not fond of it.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32555 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:17 pm to
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Go talk to an older Jew about Ukraine and see what they have to say.



Go talk to an older Back person about America and see what they have to say.



Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:18 pm to
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nuance l


This word pops up regularly here. Incorrectly.

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