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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/29/22 at 5:13 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 6/29/22 at 5:13 pm to Jim Rockford
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Jim Rockford
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 5:41 pm to StormyMcMan
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Russian President Putin: Russia does not have any issues with Sweden and Finland that could bother Moscow in the event of their membership in NATO.
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Russian President Putin: the special operation in Ukraine continues according to plan.
Russian President Putin: There was no terrorist attack in Kremenchuk. The Russian army does not hit any civilian objects during the special operation.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 5:53 pm to StormyMcMan
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1/ Two major U.S. media outlets have recently reported that officials in the Biden administration are starting to doubt whether #Ukraine can regain Ukrainian territory currently occupied by #Russia. LINK
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2/ In a report early yesterday, CNN said "White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war ..."
3/ "Advisers to President Joe Biden," CNN's report continued, "have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" – adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly."
4/ "A US military official and a source familiar with Western intelligence agreed," CNN elaborates later in its report, that "it was unlikely that Ukraine would be able to mass the force necessary to reclaim all of the territory lost to Russia during the fighting ..."
5/ "A substantial counteroffensive might be possible with more weapons and training," the sources told CNN, "but Russia may also have an opportunity to replenish its force in that time, so there are no guarantees."
6/ The key points of the CNN report are similar to those in an NBC report published on June 16. That report, NBC said, is based on information from "seven current U.S. officials, former U.S. officials and European officials."
7/ In its report, NBC said that "U.S. officials are increasingly concerned that the trajectory of the war in Ukraine is untenable ..."
8/ As a result, NBC continued, U.S. officials "are quietly discussing whether President Volodymyr Zelensky should temper his hard-line public position that no territory will ever be ceded to Russia as part of an agreement to end the war."
9/ While the U.S. is "loath to be seen as pressuring Ukraine to agree to a deal with Russia that gives up some territory," NBC noted, "there is growing concern that Zelensky’s public posture that there can be no deal unless all Russian troops leave Ukraine is unsustainable." /end
Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:00 pm to Korkstand
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I'm pretty sure that in the case of an immediate existential crisis even the greenest of greenies would say frick those regulations.
I believe that the greenest of greenies are actually commies (Pol Pot variety). As such, they may actually side with China.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:12 pm to StormyMcMan
Now’s a good time for an update from WeeWee.
Seems those two reports are timely given Russia finally breaking through in anything close to significant. WeeWee has consistently held the Ukrainians would regroup mid-end of summer to push the Russians back. Makes sense with updates we’ve seen on Russias use of conscripts and throwing everything at singular objectives unable to make progress on multiple fronts at once.
WeeWee correct me if I’ve misrepresented the sum of your updates, was not my intent. Just would like a potential counter to the CNN & NBC reports.
Seems those two reports are timely given Russia finally breaking through in anything close to significant. WeeWee has consistently held the Ukrainians would regroup mid-end of summer to push the Russians back. Makes sense with updates we’ve seen on Russias use of conscripts and throwing everything at singular objectives unable to make progress on multiple fronts at once.
WeeWee correct me if I’ve misrepresented the sum of your updates, was not my intent. Just would like a potential counter to the CNN & NBC reports.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:54 pm to StormyMcMan
Putin still wants most of Ukraine, war outlook grim -U.S. intelligence chief
WASHINGTON, June 29 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin still wants to seize most of Ukraine, but his forces are so degraded by combat that they likely can only achieve incremental gains in the near term, the top U.S. intelligence officer said Wednesday.
Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines, outlining the current U.S. intelligence assessment of the more than four-month war, said that the consensus of U.S. spy agencies is that it will grind on "for an extended period of time."
"In short, the picture remains pretty grim and Russia's attitude toward the West is hardening," Haines told a Commerce Department conference.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelinskiy this week told U.S. President Joe Biden and other G7 leaders that he wants the war over by the end of the year.
But Haines' comments suggested that the billions of dollars in modern arms being supplied by the United States and other countries to Zelinskiy's forces may not give them the ability to turn the tide against Russia any time soon.
She said that Putin remains intent on overruning most of Ukraine even though Ukrainian forces beat back Russia's attempt to capture the capital Kyiv in February, forcing Moscow to reduce its target to seizing the entire eastern Donbas region.
"We think he has effectively the same political goals that we had previously, which is to say that he wants to take most of Ukraine," Haines said.
Russian forces, however, have been so degraded by more than four months of combat that it is unlikely they can achieve Putin's goal any time soon, Haines said in her first public assessment of the war since May.
Reuters
WASHINGTON, June 29 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin still wants to seize most of Ukraine, but his forces are so degraded by combat that they likely can only achieve incremental gains in the near term, the top U.S. intelligence officer said Wednesday.
Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines, outlining the current U.S. intelligence assessment of the more than four-month war, said that the consensus of U.S. spy agencies is that it will grind on "for an extended period of time."
"In short, the picture remains pretty grim and Russia's attitude toward the West is hardening," Haines told a Commerce Department conference.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelinskiy this week told U.S. President Joe Biden and other G7 leaders that he wants the war over by the end of the year.
But Haines' comments suggested that the billions of dollars in modern arms being supplied by the United States and other countries to Zelinskiy's forces may not give them the ability to turn the tide against Russia any time soon.
She said that Putin remains intent on overruning most of Ukraine even though Ukrainian forces beat back Russia's attempt to capture the capital Kyiv in February, forcing Moscow to reduce its target to seizing the entire eastern Donbas region.
"We think he has effectively the same political goals that we had previously, which is to say that he wants to take most of Ukraine," Haines said.
Russian forces, however, have been so degraded by more than four months of combat that it is unlikely they can achieve Putin's goal any time soon, Haines said in her first public assessment of the war since May.
Reuters
Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:59 pm to cypher
ISW update
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Key Takeaways
Ukrainian sources reported that Russian authorities may be preparing to annex areas of southern Ukraine as the “Tavriia Gubernia” and that Russian authorities are setting conditions for annexation through preparing referenda in occupied areas.
Russian forces may be planning a false flag provocation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.
Russian forces continued offensive operations in and around Lysychansk.
Russian forces made marginal gains east of Bakhmut along the E40 highway and may seek to prepare for a direct offensive on Bakhmut.
Russian forces continued offensive operations to advance on Slovyansk from the northwest near the Kharkiv-Donetsk Oblast border.
Russian forces are continuing to engage in offensive operations north of Kharkiv City, indicating that the Kremlin has territorial ambitions beyond the Donbas that will continue to attrit manpower and equipment, potentially at the cost of offensive power on more critical axes of advance.
Russian forces continued to reinforce their defensive presence along the Southern Axis.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:54 pm to StormyMcMan
IMO, the effects of EMP are overhyped. The main effect would be on consumer appliance with digital controls.
Operation Starfish Prime off Hawaii to observe effects of EMP blew out a fuses at pole transformers and that was about it.
Operation Starfish Prime off Hawaii to observe effects of EMP blew out a fuses at pole transformers and that was about it.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:55 pm to StormyMcMan
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preparing to annex areas of southern Ukraine as the “Tavriia Gubernia”
Tavriia gubernia. An administrative-territorial unit of the Russian Empire set up in 1802. It included the entire Crimean Peninsula, Dnipro- (Oleshky) and Melitopol counties, which had previously belonged to New Russia gubernia, and Tmutorokan county, which was separated from the gubernia in 1820.
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Russian forces made marginal gains east of Bakhmut along the E40 highway and may seek to prepare for a direct offensive on Bakhmut.
The Russians made marginal gains, but are now also in a position to attack Bakhmut?
One doesn’t follow the other.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:56 pm to jimmy the leg
We have enough for military purposes available in stock and minable. Tesla et al would be screwed
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:59 pm to Jim Rockford
Industrial is very much shielded. Let's take the cat cracker unit explosion at Norco LA in the late 80's. It had the same effect as an EMP, yet all the automated shutdown systems worked perfect and each unit in the plant shutdown in exact sequence required not to cause any additional damage.
Now food processing plants abide by lower than industrial safety standards. We'll have a huge new batch of people hollering about the cabal sabotaging them!
Now food processing plants abide by lower than industrial safety standards. We'll have a huge new batch of people hollering about the cabal sabotaging them!
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:13 pm to CitizenK
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We have enough for military purposes available in stock and minable
I think it is 2026 that defense contractors will not be allowed to source REEs from China and 2025 is set for building a strategic reserve of REEs.
I think the biggest bottleneck for US REEs is the lack of onshore refining ability.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:30 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:40 pm to ruff fish
You are a nut.
Why don't you go sign up for Vlad's army of cannon fodder?
Why don't you go sign up for Vlad's army of cannon fodder?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:19 am to LSUPilot07
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...swallow Putin’s cancer dick.
In your posts you very often mention Putin's cock and sperm.
Are you homosexual? If so, then you will not be allowed to approach Putin's member.
This honor is given to politicians of the highest rank, and even then not to everyone.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:24 am to Chromdome35
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I don't understand what your saying. Who/what is Korean Baby EUN?
I don't know how to syntactically spell the name of the fricking chairman of the North Korean Communist Party. It's about him.
He also wrote about the American aircraft carrier
USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:29 am to CitizenK
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Then you don't belong to the same human race that the rest of the world belongs too.
By the term "the rest of the world" do you understand the United States and the countries that it has subjugated?
Then you will be disappointed, more than half of the planet does not think so
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:56 am to ruff fish
Hey I have friends you are fricking with. yeah they may have overthrown a few small counties etc but that’s just how we used to roll
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:02 am to lsu777
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first off frick russia and their fears, they live constantly paranoid about something. frick them.
Well, I can also send the USA there. And not only me, to listen to the Arabs, Persians, Japanese, Europeans and many others with whom I personally communicated send the United States to this address regularly.
Therefore, many Americans traveling the world prefer to say that they are from Canada, so that there are no sidelong glances in their direction. But I and those simple people.
I publicly and through the media sent out I know that only the North Korean "president". This is the country about which you write that you won but for some reason retreated so as not to collide with China.
But wait, you wrote that you have no equal, but it turns out that China did not let you capture some kind of Korea ... Yes, and with Vietnam it turned out somehow inconvenient.
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has nato once, ever hit them with weapons ever?
and so im sure Putins desire to rebuild the russian empire as it was before the soviets had nothing to do with it huh? he only stated that for fun
And it was necessary to wait for the NATO military bloc, approaching our borders and already coming close, to strike like Yugoslavia?
Hitler in 1941 said the same thing.
Russia has said that it would like to join NATO and thereby rid itself of the threat. But we were refused and at the same time they accepted our former allies there.
Why, yesterday at Stoltenberg (the main one in NATO) he openly stated that since 2014 NATO has been considering Russia as an object for attack.
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as far as the rest of this...do you really believe we couldnt crush russia in about 2 fricking seconds? please tell me you are not that retarded
yea they have nukes and less than a dozen actually work. all you have to do is look at the cost of maintaining a single nuclear weapon and go look at the soviet budgets and the current budget and do some simple math.
I recognize American snobbery. Who told you that we have a dozen nuclear weapons? You have been badly deceived! This is only possible for one rocket. And there are many more of these missiles.
Worse, there are "Poseidons" and not a couple of pieces, but more.
Have you heard anything about the efficiency of development?
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It's like with the Augean stables, you can, as you say, connect mathematical calculations, hire a hundred or a thousand diggers and dig. And you can start the river bed with one digger and clean it up.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:04 am to CitizenK
You are kinda right the reports of these weapon systems are spotty, the actual weapon systems can take out power on a entire battalion, flotilla of ships, and drop planes from the sky, as well as cause instant pain, confusion etc in soldiers. If 25% of our actual capacity and capability is public I would be stunned. Why so much of it is black file classified I have no idea.
As George Bush the wiser once said “If the American Public knew have the shite we did they would rebel and kill us all”
As George Bush the wiser once said “If the American Public knew have the shite we did they would rebel and kill us all”
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