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re: Electric Vehicles
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:02 am to NashvilleTider
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:02 am to NashvilleTider
Well, it is TVA. Barely light a pullstring bulb.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:06 am to burger bearcat
I think where this is really going to blow up in their faces is when the first generation of all electric cars reach their end of life. Spending $20k on battery replacement isn’t subsidized, and I’m sure these folks aren’t banking their fuel savings in order to offset that cost. It will be interesting to see how the resale market goes. Do you get the tax rebate for used EV same as new? What’s the price point? And then with all the semiconductor shortages, what happens when you can’t get parts and service for these vehicles? Can’t just run down to AutoZone.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:06 am to NashvilleTider
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Looked into getting a Tesla and our power company said the TVA grid can’t sustain more than 2 EVa on a street.
What's wrong with TVA? My street has at least seven or eight and Duke somehow hasn't melted down.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:07 am to burger bearcat
Then there's the dude who packed his Telsa with C4 and blew it up. Why? The batteries went out on his ridiculously expensive Tesla model and the cost to replace them was like 20+ thousand dollars. Telsa told him, go fly a kite, we're not replacing them. Tuff shisky. So in protest, the guy blew up the Telsa. Invited reporters to watch.
But wait it gets worse. Telsa has programmed these Telsa EV's to go driverless. But there's a problem. They run red lights. Something wrong with the GPS programming on the things. So imagine this. The wife is taking the kids to school in your efficient fossil-fueled SUV. She approaches an intersection with a green light AND "BAM" gets broadsided by a driverless Telsa. A driverless Telsa with some tree hugger sitting in the front passenger seat, sipping on a Latte glued to his/her iPhone.
Okay, folks place your bets. How many people will these driverless Telsa EV's kill?
But wait it gets worse. Telsa has programmed these Telsa EV's to go driverless. But there's a problem. They run red lights. Something wrong with the GPS programming on the things. So imagine this. The wife is taking the kids to school in your efficient fossil-fueled SUV. She approaches an intersection with a green light AND "BAM" gets broadsided by a driverless Telsa. A driverless Telsa with some tree hugger sitting in the front passenger seat, sipping on a Latte glued to his/her iPhone.
Okay, folks place your bets. How many people will these driverless Telsa EV's kill?
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:07 am to elprez00
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And then with all the semiconductor shortages, what happens when you can’t get parts and service for these vehicles? Can’t just run down to AutoZone.
To be fair, this ship sailed in the late 1970s
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:10 am to burger bearcat
No thanks. I will keep what I have. There are more minuses than pluses for me.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:15 am to jonnyanony
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What's wrong with TVA? My street has at least seven or eight and Duke somehow hasn't melted down.
What yall are failing to realize, it's not about the 7 or 8 on your street right now. TVA can handle the loads right now because there are thousands of streets that don't have 7 or 8 EVs compared to the few streets that do. Our grid was not built to support everyone owning an EV. California can barely keep the lights on now and not everyone is mandated an EV.
I realize TVA is not in Cali.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 7:16 am
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:16 am to burger bearcat
Dr. Evil is pushing EV. I rest my case.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:28 am to bigtiger440
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California can barely keep the lights on now
When could they ever?
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:40 am to shel311
Orlly??
Let's just start with the strip mining being done with non-emissions controlled diesel equipment and go from there.
Let's just start with the strip mining being done with non-emissions controlled diesel equipment and go from there.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:40 am to burger bearcat
I drive a chevy Bolt EV, bought in 2017. My wife drives a Lexus RX350, 2019. As a town car, the the Bolt is a pleasure to drive. Not as easy riding as the Lexus, but, I never pull into a gas station, drive the peppiest auto I have ever had, change no oil, or check on oil, transmission, radiator (yep, no radiator), drive on wheels which are self repairing for nails and such. Yes they had this thingy with the main drive battery, but I had a total replacement with a larger battery (used on 2022 models). I now have a new 8 year warranty on the replacement. Other than the battery recall, I have had zero problems, mostly because without transmission, internal combustion engine and all of its working parts, there is almost nothing to break. zero to sixty in 6.5 seconds is also plenty of NOISELESS pick-up. Every day I plug it in, and without any long trips, it has a full charge every morning. Oh yeah, the new battery is good for 270 miles per charge, + OR - depending upon how heavy the foot is.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:48 am to steadytiger
Looks like a Tesla level two charger uses up to 48 amps at 240v to put it in perspective the typical home has 200 amps of available service coming into the house so every four vehicle chargers is equal to more than the load of a home as that 200 Amps is your max with everything in the house running… Definitely not sustainable for any current neighborhood infrastructure.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:48 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Let's just start with the strip mining being done with non-emissions controlled diesel equipment and go from there.
Yeah but all that mining is done in China so it's okay
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:49 am to steadytiger
Now we know we'll never find SteadyTiger more than 135 miles from home. There is the halfway limit of your impact on society.
To go visit anywhere outside his range .... he now has to fly or rent a gas powered car to get there and back. There is walking or riding a horse .....
To go visit anywhere outside his range .... he now has to fly or rent a gas powered car to get there and back. There is walking or riding a horse .....
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:54 am to burger bearcat
The LIBS will drive up the price on gas cars and gasoline...forcing people to buy EVs....or take public transportation.
They have been working on this plan for decades.
The DEMS want the USA to mirror Europe!
They have been working on this plan for decades.
The DEMS want the USA to mirror Europe!
Posted on 2/14/22 at 8:06 am to Clames
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Except EPA rules forced the phase out of incandescent bulbs.
I think I can go to my local Lowes and buy all sorts of incandescent bulbs. Are they really outlawed or did that rule go away??
I have a reservation for a Ford Lightning. Having an EV is intriguing to me. I just need it for a commute into the nearest town for errands and such. It's an almost 40 mile round trip. If I needed a truck to haul heavy loads long distances I'd get an ICE. I don't see why EVs are bothersome to most of you. I agree lithium mining is likely an ugly venture. And we are still going to need the energy to replace all the gasoline. So in the end I don't know what is saved. For you engineer types, is an EV motor more efficient than an ICE?
I'm finding the Ford "getting a Lightning" process to be a royal pain in the arse. I have no hope of getting one anytime soon. They are expensive also.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 8:14 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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I don't see why EVs are bothersome to most of you.
I'll use a popular word of the left - EVs are "problematic."
How long does your phone battery hold a charge? How often do you have to change phones?
Overly simplistic (because, in many ways, EVs requires less intensive maintenance than ICE vehicles), but an EV is a cell phone in vehicular form. It will be great while it has a charge and all the software/firmware is updated and working well. It will be *ahem* "not so great" when those things aren't working well.
And when hundreds of millions of EVs need new batteries every 2 to 4 years, that's going to be a fricking problem, frankly.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 8:15 am
Posted on 2/14/22 at 8:21 am to bluedragon
Duhh, what part of town car do you not understand. Also "Bluedragon," try reading about a subject before you step into piles of s#it. Ever hear of charging stations? I am not going to educate you. I'll just allow you to continue to make an ignorant arse of yourself.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 8:22 am to burger bearcat
What we have all got to understand is that there is NO WAY that a one-to-one exchange of ICE vehicles to EVs can ever be done. Even if we continued to use fossil fuels and nuclear to create power, it would still be quite difficult to pull-off. Relying upon so-called renewable energy to produce most of our electricity is a near impossibility for widespread EV use. The only way for them to shoehorn us all into EVs is to drastically reduce the number of private vehicles AND the number of miles those vehicles are allowed to be driven each year. They know this, too.
The people imposing this on the rest of us largely live on both coasts where many of them don't even own a car, and mainly rely upon public transportation in densely populated urban areas. The move to EVs will primarily hurt/punish the people who live in flyover/red states.
The people imposing this on the rest of us largely live on both coasts where many of them don't even own a car, and mainly rely upon public transportation in densely populated urban areas. The move to EVs will primarily hurt/punish the people who live in flyover/red states.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 8:27 am to Ace Midnight
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And when hundreds of millions of EVs need new batteries every 2 to 4 years, that's going to be a fricking problem, frankly.
Ok. So you wouldn't get an EV. I understand that. If this is ultimately a clusterfricke then bring it on and let it happen and then let's get on with hydrogen fuel cells. But why does anyone care if their neighbor gets an EV?
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