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Electric Vehicles
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:18 pm
So they are obviously hellbent on pushing these out to the masses. I was kind of laughing about the 2030 mandate for a new cars. But this looks like the way they are moving forward. frick those things. The overall impact on the environment has to be worse than a gas engine.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:21 pm to burger bearcat
Looked into getting a Tesla and our power company said the TVA grid can’t sustain more than 2 EVa on a street. This is their plan to shut the grid down and take control
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:22 pm to NashvilleTider
2024 election will change all that IMO
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:27 pm to burger bearcat
Member these?
You'd be hard pressed to find one. Just a few years ago, they were trying to get every household to install these things. Then along came the led bulb. They don't last no where near as long as advertised and they fricking break too often. Give me the tried and true incandescent bulb. Pretty cheap and has a reasonable life span.
The point is, no one knows what tomorrow holds. Especially when we got these cock sucking "save the planet" politicians trying to steer the future of industry.
You'd be hard pressed to find one. Just a few years ago, they were trying to get every household to install these things. Then along came the led bulb. They don't last no where near as long as advertised and they fricking break too often. Give me the tried and true incandescent bulb. Pretty cheap and has a reasonable life span.
The point is, no one knows what tomorrow holds. Especially when we got these cock sucking "save the planet" politicians trying to steer the future of industry.
This post was edited on 2/13/22 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:44 pm to burger bearcat
quote:Except it's not
The overall impact on the environment has to be worse than a gas engine.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:45 pm to NashvilleTider
quote:This isn't true, zero chance.
Looked into getting a Tesla and our power company said the TVA grid can’t sustain more than 2 EVa on a street. This is their plan to shut the grid down and take control
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:48 pm to burger bearcat
Almost every single one I've seen is ugly as hell, all of them. I only like the Tesla plaid and it's unattainable for the average Joe. I'm all for technology but we are not anywhere close to ready for an EV takeover. More like in 30 years and maybe not even then.
This post was edited on 2/13/22 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:55 pm to burger bearcat
EV’s are not the answer and I’m a huge supporter. Everything in moderation is good. EV’s are not THE future. They are part of it but ICE will be dethroned simply because of politics. Lithium production is so harmful to the environment.
Splitting the technologies to include EV’s, ICE & HFC will be a wayy smart approach to 2050 tha. Trying to ram EV’s as the sole savior. The entire globe is gambling on it and it’s going to have negative impact on everything. Oil futures are sky high right now because engineers and economists both know that lithium is not nearly as abundant as fossil fuel but it’s way more harmful to produce. Ironic isn’t it.
Splitting the technologies to include EV’s, ICE & HFC will be a wayy smart approach to 2050 tha. Trying to ram EV’s as the sole savior. The entire globe is gambling on it and it’s going to have negative impact on everything. Oil futures are sky high right now because engineers and economists both know that lithium is not nearly as abundant as fossil fuel but it’s way more harmful to produce. Ironic isn’t it.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:57 pm to burger bearcat
Is it your direct ties to the oil and gas industry that makes you this deluded or do you still attribute EVs to the left?
Posted on 2/13/22 at 11:01 pm to NashvilleTider
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Looked into getting a Tesla and our power company said the TVA grid can’t sustain more than 2 EVa on a street. This is their plan to shut the grid down and take control
I own 2 Teslas. If someone told you that, they are retarded
Posted on 2/13/22 at 11:03 pm to burke985
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I only like the Tesla plaid and it's unattainable for the average Joe.
There has been only minimal changes to the Model S since it debuted a decade ago. The Model S Plaid is almost indistinguishable from any Model S made post mid-2016
Posted on 2/13/22 at 11:25 pm to Langland
I love my LED lights and no government mandate had to get me to buy them. They just provide a lot of light that is very energy efficient because they produce very little heat and almost all light.
Then too, there is that bathroom incandescent light that always went out when I got up to pee.
Then too, there is that bathroom incandescent light that always went out when I got up to pee.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 12:39 am to Auburn1968
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no government mandate had to get me to buy them. They just provide a lot of light that is very energy efficient because they produce very little heat and almost all light.
Except EPA rules forced the phase out of incandescent bulbs. Also, LED's are nowhere near as efficient as they are touted to be, no as long lived. The LED itself might last 10's of thousands of hours in a laboratory but the driver circuitry barely lasts longer than good incandescent bulbs for all of the heat they generate. They produce far more solid waste when they burn out too.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 1:56 am to shel311
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This isn't true, zero chance.
You have zero fricking idea. 2 per street was probably their way of telling him in a way most people understand, two per local transformer. Every 3 or 4 homes share a common transformer that brings the 6KV neighborhood power down to 220V used in the home. These are relatively small transformers and can handle a limited amount of power. Power spreads out from where it is generated and there are a number of transformers between where power is generated and where it is used. Not only does the amount of power have to go up, but the infrastructure between the generators and point of use have to be upgraded too. Transformers, cables. My guess is charging two cars per local transformer at the same time will dim the lights in all the houses connected to the transformer whenever the air conditioner in any of the homes connected to the transformer turns on.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 2:30 am to burger bearcat
Government intervention usually doesn't work.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 3:12 am to shel311
quote:
Except it's not
Except it is. they mine for nickel with electric diggers? Then transport the pieces by electric ship? Or does the nickel come from fairy farts?
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 3:13 am
Posted on 2/14/22 at 5:33 am to burger bearcat
A gradualist approach to the adoption of new technologies is always better than coercion as performed by government and quasi governmental agencies, who are ALWAYS wrong.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 5:42 am to burger bearcat
I couldn't give more of a shite about the enviorment. So far all I've seen about it is end of the world alarmism impulsed by the same kind of people of '' The science council will decide your fate'' as Fauci.
There are thousands of scientists who don't acknowledge that humans have an impact on the climate, but of course the ''pro science'' group who hates conspirationist theories, claims that all those who dissent form part of the oil industry's global conspiracy to destroy the world for short term profit. Because you know, the multi billonaires would rather spend all their money in a cover up of global scale, instead of just, invest a small fraction of that in monopolizing the renewable energy industry for themselves, since it already has a high barrier of entry in capital
I would buy one if they were a cheap way of saving money on gas, but they really aren't as of now.
There are thousands of scientists who don't acknowledge that humans have an impact on the climate, but of course the ''pro science'' group who hates conspirationist theories, claims that all those who dissent form part of the oil industry's global conspiracy to destroy the world for short term profit. Because you know, the multi billonaires would rather spend all their money in a cover up of global scale, instead of just, invest a small fraction of that in monopolizing the renewable energy industry for themselves, since it already has a high barrier of entry in capital
I would buy one if they were a cheap way of saving money on gas, but they really aren't as of now.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 5:46 am
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:00 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Except it is. they mine for nickel with electric diggers? Then transport the pieces by electric ship? Or does the nickel come from fairy farts
There’s a lot of mining needed to produce batteries. Parts of Alabama are already being bought up towards that end. Plus the electricity will be produced by fossil fuels, more of which will be required. The grid infrastructure will need to be beefed up substantially I would suspect. Then there’s battery disposal issues, increased fire risk possibly using less clean generation resources to meet more extreme peak demand…
There’s pluses to EVs, but saving the environment has never been one of them.
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