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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:08 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:08 pm to HubbaBubba
RB will do nothing different for Checo until Max completely obliterates the single season win record.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 5:04 am to Skeet Mc
Think the better question is once Albon returns, does Williams sack the Goat and let Nyck finish the season for them?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:02 am to Lsut81
Goatifi has to ride out the season.
Williams is crazy if they Piastri this decision and don't sign him on. Who else are they going to get that is arguably better in that car?
Williams is crazy if they Piastri this decision and don't sign him on. Who else are they going to get that is arguably better in that car?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:04 am to HubbaBubba
i suspect RBR will do everything they can to get Checo the win at Mexico City. Then again part of me thinks Christian & Max are ruthless enough to just obliterate all the records.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:05 am to Lsut81
wouldn't be shocked to see de vries wind up at alpine. at the very least he deserves a haas or williams seat.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:36 am to 1999
Anyone else notice that fans, specifically Brit fans, have cried since Abu Dhabi that races should finish under safety car when applicable, then suddenly now that a race finished under a safety car are trying to throw together wild suggestions for rules changes to, wait for it, let races not finish under safety car.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:59 am to YOURADHERE
Are they the same fans or are you just saying people complained for under safety car and people complained for not under safety car?
Like some LSU fans bitching about Coach O and others bitching because O is gone. Doesn't mean they are the same fans, just the same fan base.
Like some LSU fans bitching about Coach O and others bitching because O is gone. Doesn't mean they are the same fans, just the same fan base.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:42 pm to YOURADHERE
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Anyone else notice that fans, specifically Brit fans, have cried since Abu Dhabi that races should finish under safety car when applicable, then suddenly now that a race finished under a safety car are trying to throw together wild suggestions for rules changes to, wait for it, let races not finish under safety car.
I already suggested a solution previously that would make most folks happy:
If a race is 90% complete and there is a need for a safety car due to an incident, automatically red flag the race and have a standing restart, but don't allow teams to replace tires or do any other kind of service on the car and let them race to the chequered flag in the same setups they were in prior to the red flag stoppage.
Can someone tell me why this wouldn't work?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:48 pm to rickgrimes
Current set of rules allows for controversies. Controversies generate discussion and views. Views generate $$.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:49 pm to rickgrimes
Because a lot of strategies hinge on closing the gap in the final few laps of the race and then having to pass.
The standing start is gifting places to whoever has the freshest tires. Especially after a red flag where all the heat will be gone.
And how many times do we do the charade? That is a lot of rule changes for something that happens around 2% of the time.
The standing start is gifting places to whoever has the freshest tires. Especially after a red flag where all the heat will be gone.
And how many times do we do the charade? That is a lot of rule changes for something that happens around 2% of the time.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:34 pm to fightin tigers
Agree. Glad it happened at the finale last year but as a general rule it is not a fair or sporting way to finish a race as it only benefits those with places to gain and punishes the race leader without cause.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:47 pm to fightin tigers
quote:take a flyer on Mick Doohan's kid. Dude is quick
Williams is crazy if they Piastri this decision and don't sign him on. Who else are they going to get that is arguably better in that car?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:04 pm to rickgrimes
I think they should extend the race by 3-5 laps. Moving a stopped car (unless wrecked) is usually handled through a safety car, so why make a change to what works just because we are deeper into a race. The only thing they would have to do is suspend the minimum fuel requirements as teams would dip below that mark.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:16 pm to cherrycoke
Most of the teams probably couldn't make an entire extra lap with what they have on board, especially a comptetitive one.
Even then a car could stop on the extra lap and then we would have to extend it again.
And nothing would be worse than red flagging with 10% to go and finishing because of time instead of laps.
Even then a car could stop on the extra lap and then we would have to extend it again.
And nothing would be worse than red flagging with 10% to go and finishing because of time instead of laps.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 5:34 pm to rickgrimes
The way fuel is managed they might have an issue with running out? Others mentioned it favors teams who pitted more recently. Cold tires is a massive wreck waiting to happen turn 1. Mechanical failures from a car foing to max running for the race to shut down to running again.
So if they wreck in turn one of restart another red flag? How many red flags? Do they restart until fans get the result they want for that race? Base it off of loudest cheers for each driver name called?
Too many reasons they can’t do this. Once you red flag and let drivers out they can go pee and that messes up post race weigh ins.
If they had fueling during out stops then could do like Nascar and have to finish under green. But with so much team orders once 1 lap of green is done the second driver could cause a caution to give his teammate the win.
I don’t see any easy fixes
So if they wreck in turn one of restart another red flag? How many red flags? Do they restart until fans get the result they want for that race? Base it off of loudest cheers for each driver name called?
Too many reasons they can’t do this. Once you red flag and let drivers out they can go pee and that messes up post race weigh ins.
If they had fueling during out stops then could do like Nascar and have to finish under green. But with so much team orders once 1 lap of green is done the second driver could cause a caution to give his teammate the win.
I don’t see any easy fixes
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:06 pm to cherrycoke
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I think they should extend the race by 3-5 laps.
I don't they carry enough fuel go keep racing an additional 3-5 laps. That's they reason I suggested an automatic red flag for a late incident. But I get what you folks are saying about cold/fresh tires, etc.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:17 pm to rickgrimes
And refueling isn't a feasible option for the teams as it now stands. There isn't exactly a fill nozzle on the outside.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:34 pm to fightin tigers
They need to bring refueling back.
Added a lot of strategy.
Added a lot of strategy.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:49 pm to BuckyCheese
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They need to bring refueling back.
And V10s. And pit girls. And different tire manufacturers.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:41 pm to OU Guy
quote:What does this even mean? Red flags exist right now in F1 today, so how is this an argument against the red flags in an end of race scenario?
Once you red flag and let drivers out they can go pee and that messes up post race weigh ins.
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