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re: Cap NIL and bring back the 1 year sit rule for transfers…

Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:16 am to
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25501 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:16 am to
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Cap NIL


Admittedly, I have not been following this closely, but I doubt this is permitted under the SCOTUS holding. If I recall correctly the 9th Circuit ruled that NCAA could not cap benefits, and the Supreme Court affirmed.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15579 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:17 am to
I think any changes to the NIL will become a legal matter....and changes to the portal will be managed by the NCAA, until they become a legal matter, IMO.

So, get ready for the lawsuits start flying, once you reduce the value and the freedom of the poor college athlete.

Get the popcorn ready!



Posted by Tiger2022
Member since Dec 2021
794 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:18 am to
Nothing to do with that. I think we did phenomenal for a transition year. The league as a whole , has absolutely zero loyalty left in the game and it’s a shame.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3901 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:19 am to
Also we all need 1 year break if we decide to change jobs.
It’s a free country and that’s what makes America great
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by Tiger2022
Member since Dec 2021
794 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:26 am to
Ok, at least bring back the 1 year sit rule for transfers.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2482 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:32 am to
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Ok, at least bring back the 1 year sit rule for transfers.



Can try, but would likely be challenged as well and the courts would probably side with the player.

Posted by HotTakes
Member since Sep 2021
1498 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:34 am to
None of this intraconference transferring shite
Posted by jacquespene8
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
4157 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:34 am to
I’m in favor of sit 1 year for in-conference transfers. Wanna transfer out of conference? Go for it.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9762 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:35 am to
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You can't do this. The Supreme Court decision that opened the doors for NIL in the first place doesn't allow a restriction like this.

The Supreme Court decision did not actually address NIL. Kavanaugh fired a shot across the bow in his concurring opinion but the ruling itself was very limited in scope.

The real issue is that state NIL laws went into effect, which put the NCAA in a tough spot. Without any federal legislation, the NCAA cannot enforce any rules that force universities to choose between compliance with state laws or compliance with NCAA rules.

So it’s the individual state NIL laws that really tied the NCAA’s hands.
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The only way that the NCAA can cap earnings is if they agree to treat players as employees. And that's not gonna happen any time soon.

This I agree with 100%. The only way the NCAA or even the P5 conferences regain full control is by entering collective bargaining. Honestly I don’t think it would be that bad - certainly better from a competition standpoint than a free for all. If the “market” truly doesn’t support millions of dollars for college athletes, then any collective bargaining agreement should ultimately reflect that.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2867 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:44 am to
I don’t think they can hard cap the nil. I could see all nil deals have to have full disclosure.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39753 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:56 am to
I wonder if the NCAA passes a rule that requires universities to put athletes on the payroll with a fixed stipend, could the NCAA then argue that they have the legal right to restrict NIL deals (similar to the way companies can legally restrict employee's side businesses that conflict with said companies ability to do business)?

Then, you ban NIL deals for ALL first year players, including first year non graduate transfers.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5893 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:58 am to
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NCAA

This is all you need to know why this hasn’t happened yet
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11875 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:59 am to
I’m just not a fan of NIL period. I’m probably in the minority. I like the one year sit rule. I think currently it’s just too easy for these kids to just move on if they don’t like the way things are going.
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1463 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:13 am to
Problem I see with the idea that a cap would fix this is that the NIL rules or lack thereof give a smokescreen to the bagmen. Just look at A&M. What they are allegedly doing has nothing to do with NIL but it provides an excellent smokescreen to fill the pockets of recruits and their families. They and the big schools were likely already doing this but it required much more tact since a college kid with a sudden influx of money was highly conspicuous and suspicious. Even with a cap the bagmen will get money to these guys and with the smokescreen of NIL you will never know where the money came from or how much of it was given without violating the privacy of individuals.
Posted by Eatem up
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2017
565 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:18 am to
Also no meddling/contact with players from other schools during the season. Once Elis Ricks decided to sit and have surgery on his collarbone Bama was all over his arse. This should not be allowed during the season…if at all.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13082 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:43 am to
Then make coaches have to sit a year before taking another job. As long as coaches can take the bigger better deals for themselves, players should be allowed to as well.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13082 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:45 am to
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It seems like a mess. A bidding war for mercenaries.



It’s not a mess it’s capitalism at its finest.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13082 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:53 am to
quote:

I’m just not a fan of NIL period. I’m probably in the minority. I like the one year sit rule. I think currently it’s just too easy for these kids to just move on if they don’t like the way things are going.



Give one logical reason why these kids should not be able to make money off their likeness and abilities and one logical reason why they should have to sit a year without your argument boiling down to “because it hurts my favorite team”. You can’t. We don’t set these standards for any other scholarships so why should athletes be treated any differently. Any kid on an academic scholarship is free to make as much money as they want off their talents and skills as well as transfer to another school at any moment.

You have no argument in your favor to put limitations on these students.
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7851 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:55 am to
I still think a kid should only be allowed to have NIL after they've been on campus at least 1 year, maybe 2. Should be more of an option for kids leaving early and incentive to stay.
Posted by biggdogg
United States
Member since May 2008
1664 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:00 am to
No need to cap nil, if the teams spending money and still not winning they gonna stop dishing out the funds
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