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re: In 7-8 days LSU could be looking very very good, also Fla now trying to make a move in La
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:58 am to TrueTigerTale
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:58 am to TrueTigerTale
Florida coach who focuses more on Louisiana than Florida will fail in both states. His mentality is terrible if this is what he’s doing.
Good. He’s Tiger Bait.
Good. He’s Tiger Bait.
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:03 am to TrueTigerTale
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also Fla now trying to make a move in La
Didn't this get the previous coach fired? Not recruiting more in Florida and letting top talent go to other states.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:09 am to LSUROXS
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Didn't this get the previous coach fired? Not recruiting more in Florida and letting top talent go to other states.
It's not just other states. FSU and Miami have more top 15 Florida players than UF.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:15 am to Forever
quote:So when Luther Davis committed to Alabama three weeks after Saban announced he was going to be Bama's HC, it was because Saban
You’re incredibly arrogant for someone who has takes like this Saban has done well in Louisiana because he’s close geographically, has owned LSU since he arrived at Bama, and wins national championships every other year. It’s not because he’s buddies with someone’s baw cousin who can give him a leg up with certain recruits.
quote:Tell me more.
[is] close geographically, has owned LSU since he arrived at Bama, and wins national championships every other year. It’s not because he’s buddies with someone’s baw cousin who can give him a leg up with certain recruits.
Tell me about Lacy, Sentimore, and Bell. Was it the crushing defeat to Utah to close out the 2008 season that made them commit to Alabama. I know about Lacy's grades, but you don't think Saban's Louisiana connections helped Bama in getting him eligible?
quote:Napier is no Kelly, and he is no Saban. But you are sticking your head in the sand if you don't think his time here will help him recruit here.
How you can even loosely compare Billy Napier to Saban in terms of recruiting advantage is beyond me. Napier is as far away from LSU as basically any other SEC school, he wasn’t well known or highly regarded nationally or locally as the head coach of a G5 program, and he generally can’t hold Kelly’s jock strap in coaching acumen. Saban is the only coach in the country who’s had consistent success stealing top Louisiana talent, Napier is not that guy.
Why do you think Kelly hired Wilson, Hankton, and Sloan?
Are they the best coaches in the country for their positions?
Or were they hired because they have contacts in Louisiana?
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:49 am to Woodman
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Napier is going to quickly learn the academic rigor at UF is different than UL and even LSU.
Lol, Florida isn't any harder for athletes than LSU.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:20 pm to Salviati
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Saban has had a huge advantage recruiting Louisiana as the Alabama HC because of the contacts he made as the LSU HC. That sucks. Napier will have a huge advantage recruiting Louisiana as the Florida HC because of the contacts he made as the ULL HC. That will also suck.
You are seriously overvaluing the frick out of past connections. Saban didn’t start regularly pulling star players out of LA until he won a title at Bama. Saban’s old LA connections aren’t what made him so effective here. It’s the fact that he’s the greatest coach in college football history. That cannot possibly be overlooked.
The fact that you compare Napier and Saban as equals in your post is beyond ridiculous. Napier isn’t going to regularly be a threat to pull top LA players away from LSU, Bama and A&M unless/until he competes for and wins the East.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:24 pm to Rtowntiger
I don’t know about being scorned as being the coach at ULL he knows all these kids. ULL can’t recruit in Florida so he doesn’t know anybody in Florida and he’s concentrating on what he knows because it’s a short window from when he was hired to when signing is.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:28 pm to tiggerthetooth
FL talent is top-notch, they don't need LA boys at UF. They need to focus on locking down that state.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:53 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Fla now trying to make a move in La
I hope for Napiers sake that this is mainly due to that is where his current relationships are and not his long term strategy.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:56 pm to TrueTigerTale
Napier is a poor man's Saban. He's doing everything Saban did including trying to weaken an SEC rival.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:28 pm to misey94
quote:Saban pulled Davis, Lacy, Sentimore, and Bell before he won a title at Bama. Saban wasn't the "greatest coach in college football history" until he started winning titles at Bama.
You are seriously overvaluing the frick out of past connections. Saban didn’t start regularly pulling star players out of LA until he won a title at Bama. Saban’s old LA connections aren’t what made him so effective here. It’s the fact that he’s the greatest coach in college football history. That cannot possibly be overlooked.
quote:Strawman much? In no way did I say that Napier = Saban. I said only that they have an advantage in recruiting Louisiana because they were HCs in Louisiana.
The fact that you compare Napier and Saban as equals in your post is beyond ridiculous.
quote:Fisher won the West?
Napier isn’t going to regularly be a threat to pull top LA players away from LSU, Bama and A&M unless/until he competes for and wins the East.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:54 pm to Lester Earl
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If Saban can’t pull kids with regularity fron this state
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:08 pm to TrueTigerTale
Napier must know that the freshness of his Louisiana recruiting will wear down quickly, he better concentrate on Florida where he’s at. If not Mario will own the state. In 3 years or less Nobody will know Napier even was in Louisiana.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:21 pm to Sissidog02
Said that from the get go. He better not lose focus on the state of Fla otherwise Mario and Gus will sweep the rug.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:56 am to SulphursFinest
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He would be stupid not to try to get the kids he built a relationship with while at UL.
He coached at Louisville? I had no idea. Thought they grabbed him from USL....
Posted on 1/28/22 at 6:57 am to Salviati
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Saban wasn't the "greatest coach in college football history" until he started winning titles at Bama.
Saban was a legend in Louisiana because he won a national title at LSU.
Napier won the Sunbelt at ULL.
I get what you're saying, but Napier isn't starting with anything close to the cache of Nick Saban in Louisiana.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:05 am to CatfishJohn
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I also think Napier just doesn’t know Florida recruits and high school coaches as well yet.
This is why you hire recruiters with that experience with the current Florida recruits.
Napier focused on his boys, trolling LSU, and got stuck with a LA-focused staff. He needs to hire a "recruiting common sense coordinator"
*ETA: it's hilarious b/c LSU was criticized for hiring Kelly and his alleged "culture fit issues" but Kelly goes out and hires Frank Wilson and retains Davis to ensure his ignorance in LA is covered. UF gets their dick sucked for hiring Napier who is clearly having cultural issues immediately in Florida so he has to use a crutch of LA recruiting.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 7:07 am
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:12 am to Salviati
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but that doesn't mean that Napier's four years as the ULL HC did not make him a far more formidable recruiter for Louisiana talent.
I imagine he will win the annual Brick Haley award for losing the most highly rated LA recruits while being in their top 3.
Saban recruits LA well b/c of their historical success. Napier will have to rival that success to be a blip on the radar long-term.
Also Napier's primary recruiting area in LA is one of the strongest regions in LA for LSU. If Napier had more inroads in New Orleans or Baton Rouge, then I could see a stronger argument (because both areas have a lot of anti-LSU populations, especially in the various black communities). Acadiana is possibly the most pro-LSU recruiting area of LA (I'm hoping Citizen picks LSU so LC can return to that status).
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:59 am to misey94
We like to turn a blind eye to the fact that Saban takes top recruits from fricking everywhere.
Maybe his connections help.
Being considered one of the best coaches in the game and winning nonstop helps more.
Maybe his connections help.
Being considered one of the best coaches in the game and winning nonstop helps more.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Saban's recruiting in Louisiana is very over-rated. Christian Harris is LSU's only miss in the last 5 years, not including current signees who are unproven.
Over the past 5 years, including 2022, Alabama has signed 9 players:
2022: 3 signees during a transition year: Law, Anderson and Preston
2021: 1 signee: Kaine Williams (did he even have an LSU offer?)
2020: 1 signee Kyle Edwards (don't think he had an LSU offer)Has already transferred to Southeastern Louisiana
2019: 2 signees, Sopsher and Harris. Sopsher has already transferred. Harris is a very good player.
2018: 2 signees Slade Bolden and Eddie Smith. Both 3 stars and both have already transferred.
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