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re: Tennis is the most difficult sport to master
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:58 am to Mstate
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:58 am to Mstate
quote:I watched Steph curry shoot 73 at a korn ferry event
Those guys you reference would not come close to breaking 80.
The other players in the event still shot far lower, but that is him going and being able to not embarrass himself. Golf is the only sport where that is really possible because you don’t have to actually play against the other person. You play against land
This is someone who plays close to 100 basketball games a year
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 11:03 am
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:38 pm to ManBearTiger
I would say golf or gymnastics
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:52 pm to lsupride87
its tennis
hardest specific thing to do in sports is hit a baseball but tennis is the hardest overall sport.
gymnastics is pretty close too.
like said earlier, in both you must have 10k hours put in by the time you become a teen to even have a chance. you essentially have to give up your whole childhood and go live in a boarding school at an academy to even have a chance to turn pro.
golf is very hard but plenty go the normal route of playing local courses, play in HS, go to college and play and then become pros.
that doesnt happen in tennis.
hardest specific thing to do in sports is hit a baseball but tennis is the hardest overall sport.
gymnastics is pretty close too.
like said earlier, in both you must have 10k hours put in by the time you become a teen to even have a chance. you essentially have to give up your whole childhood and go live in a boarding school at an academy to even have a chance to turn pro.
golf is very hard but plenty go the normal route of playing local courses, play in HS, go to college and play and then become pros.
that doesnt happen in tennis.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:01 pm to lsu777
You are spot on. I think golf is a common answer because people have a measuring point to compare themselves to pros. You play the course, not a person, so you can compare scores and they can see how bad they really are compared to a pro
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:06 pm to lsupride87
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You can go to country clubs around the country and find 35-45 year old men that can shoot scratch and can play in a pro tournament and not completely embarassing themselves. They would shoot in the mid to high 70s and not look that out of place
Good luck doing that with tennis ? You would have the best 45 year old country clubbers looking like a monkey fricking a tennis ball if you put them on court with a pro
Astoundingly stupid take. I was a high school state champion (won by 8) and club champ at 16. For reference, I was 8 under for 2 days at state.
I got to go head to head with Aaron Baddeley a week after I won state. He was 17 and coming off his Australian Open win. I was 16 and thought I could beat him. He blistered my arse and beat me by either 9 or 10.
Instantly humbled me.
Those 45 yr old aren't playing at 7800 yards with the rough up and greens rolled. Different ballgame.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:07 pm to lsu777
quote:It is a bit more complicated than that for the most part nowadays
golf is very hard but plenty go the normal route of playing local courses, play in HS, go to college and play and then become pros.
Golf schools and academies which include lessons, personal training, analytics, boarding, etc are very very common if not expected. Not to mention it is a very very expensive sport. It is a totally different sport in the post-tiger woods world
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:09 pm to blueboxer1119
Tennis is the hardest sport. Golf of course is technical also but you do not have to be conditioned to compete and still make a living. Tennis is insane in the conditioning, time spent (practice/match play/tourneys, technical work. It is not even close.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:25 pm to ManBearTiger
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Hitting a basebsll consistently is the most difficult thing to do in sports
And yet still somehow not the least bit impressive or exciting
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:28 pm to ThePoo
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Not to mention it is a very very expensive sport.
Tennis costs much more than golf
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:35 pm to ManBearTiger
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:36 pm to Deactived
quote:well enlighten me because I am ignorant as to why
Tennis costs much more than golf
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:39 pm to blueboxer1119
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Those 45 yr old aren't playing at 7800 yards with the rough up and greens rolled. Different ballgame.
Yeah that's true, but the typical country club tennis player isn't returning serves from Djokovic or chasing Nadal forehands on clay either. You don't get to up the stakes for one but not the other.
If you take a middle aged weekend warrior golfer from the local country club and put him in the Masters field he will finish dead last and put up a high score. But he will perform all of the basic tasks (hitting a ball off a tee while someone else carries his bag and hands him a suggested club) without looking like a complete fool.
Now put the equivalent tennis player on a court in a major tournament and he is going to lose 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 while rarely winning a point (if any) and will probably be lucky not to blow out his knee chasing some shot that he has zero chance of hitting.
There's no comparison really.
I will say that golf is the most competitive sport. So if you want to factor that into the recipe, fine.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:42 pm to ThePoo
Don't get me wrong, golf is expensive. There's never a day in tennis though where you can just go play by yourself like you can in golf. Tennis requires you to have a permanent coach every day of your life to train. Golf doesn't
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:44 pm to Deactived
quote:Not seeing it, if you are talking highest level of each sport you are probably talking to multiple coaches on a daily basis for both sports (Technical - sometimes multiple coaches here, training, dieticians, psychologists)
Don't get me wrong, golf is expensive. There's never a day in tennis though where you can just go play by yourself like you can in golf. Tennis requires you to have a permanent coach every day of your life to train. Golf doesn't
If you are talking about the average joe, neither is speaking to a coach on a daily basis
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:45 pm to ManBearTiger
Going with hockey.
Take someone like Ovechkin, who is a great skater, hits like a train, and has one of the most fearsome shots in league history. You've got speed, strength, toughness, and incredible hand eye coordination where millimeters matter - not yards. And to do it all in an unnatural way of movement that you literally have to learn to do, and most folks look like baby giraffes trying.
That's a skillset that no other sport can allow for, and honestly does not allow for comparison.
I'm going with hockey.
Take someone like Ovechkin, who is a great skater, hits like a train, and has one of the most fearsome shots in league history. You've got speed, strength, toughness, and incredible hand eye coordination where millimeters matter - not yards. And to do it all in an unnatural way of movement that you literally have to learn to do, and most folks look like baby giraffes trying.
That's a skillset that no other sport can allow for, and honestly does not allow for comparison.
I'm going with hockey.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:53 pm to Deactived
I can't even imagine the expense/logistics of just stringing now. Like, if you use polys, are juniors switching out racquets after 3-4 hours when it goes dead? I know multifilament strings didn't last too long in their day, but I seem to remember at least getting a few matches out of a string job. Throw in travel expenses, court time, coaching, etc. and it adds up quickly.
I'm guessing a mediocre pro has a difficult ride. At what ranking number is the time, effort, and expense worth it? 100?
I'm guessing a mediocre pro has a difficult ride. At what ranking number is the time, effort, and expense worth it? 100?
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:58 pm to ThePoo
quote:
Not seeing it, if you are talking highest level of each sport
I'm not.
I thought we were talking about what is required to get to the highest level
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:01 pm to WhiteMandingo
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Golf is the toughest to me.
You definitely see more pro high end golfers shank a drive than you see tennis players like miss hitting the ball on the serve.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:02 pm to ManBearTiger
According to sports scientists, the only sport where you benefit from starting at an early age is golf. Roger Federer gives partial credit to his tennis success by playing other sports when younger instead of tennis.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:16 pm to Deactived
I quit competitive tennis when I got to HS so I cannot speak to that
Golf I played at a competitive level through college, I can only speak to that. I was probably approaching about $30,000-$35,000 a year not including equipment (and by me, I mean my parents because I did not like it nearly enough to pay that much) That was pretty standard for my peers. Not uncommon for the better off to double that amount yearly
I cannot imagine tennis being much more expensive than that
Golf I played at a competitive level through college, I can only speak to that. I was probably approaching about $30,000-$35,000 a year not including equipment (and by me, I mean my parents because I did not like it nearly enough to pay that much) That was pretty standard for my peers. Not uncommon for the better off to double that amount yearly
I cannot imagine tennis being much more expensive than that
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 2:18 pm
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