re: Tennis is the most difficult sport to master

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You definitely see more pro high end golfers shank a drive than you see tennis players like miss hitting the ball on the serve.

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How often you see a high level pro golfer experiencing full body cramps to where they need to go to the hospital for IVs after?

If tennis is anything like golf there is a wide variety of school and academy options. Mine was $7000 for a week. Which was on the higher end. But they have schools that go significantly longer (these are the actual schools, I just called mine a school) and costs significantly more. I was not well off enough for those. I also did not even approach elite amateur status

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I'm not.

I thought we were talking about what is required to get to the highest level

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I have no idea why you would think one would require a coach and the other would not require a coach to reach the highest levels.......

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A "weekend warrior" mid aged guy is prob an 8 or 10 handicap. Im not sure a 10 handicap could break 150 at Augusta or a US Open and that is no hyperbole. He would 100% look like a fool.

I get that a normal dude would have no chance of returning a serve from some big hitting tennis pro and would look stupid trying.

At the same time, a 10 handicap golfer would have no chance of even finishing many of these rounds on a pro course that have par 3s that require 230+ carry over water to an island green. Not to mention "pot bunkers", etc that bang PGA dudes in their arse. Average guy is not doing it. They'd run out of balls and couldnt finish.

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The weekend warrior golfer would not get embarrassed in the same way as a country club tennis player would against a top pro.

The element of playing against someone in tennis versus playing against the course is the difference imo.

Both average joes would look bad but the on the tennis court the average joe looks worse because he has no chance of returning serve or chasing down any groundies. On the golf course, the average joe could still hit the shots even if he would score poorly and come in dead last.

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The question is "difficult to master", not "most physically demanding".

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A little harder to master something that is also physically demanding wouldn’t you say?

That’s a huge element to “mastering” tennis

Golf is harder to master than tennis, IMO.

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Tennis takes all the elements of golf(hand eye, focus, mental toughness) and also adds physical speed and endurance

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All the golf bros underestimate how difficult tennis is to "master". It's a lot tougher than they can even fathom.

These dudes have zero shot at even reacting or touching a serve from even a 300 ranked tennis player. The sure as hell aren't chasing down any groundies.

Golf is weird man.. tiger woods really evolved the sport. It was happy going along with a bunch of slobs then tiger came along and it got younger, stronger, more fit. Then the courses evolved to adapt to that.

I say Tiger, I give him credit for getting the interest up but I guess a lot would have to do with modern marketing as well. A guy like rickie fowler is more appealing marketing-wise than ernie els or vjay. Modern analytics probably plays a big part as well

Its catalyst for evolving was seemingly unnecessary in comparison to other sports, but it did evlove and that unnecessary change made future changes more necessary

I do not know much about NASCAR but it seems maybe something happened similar with that

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Is the sport easy? frick no. But there are more humans born with the physical capability to go pro in golf than other mainstream sports because the lack of physical aspect

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Exactly. Golf is hard as frick. I'm not discounting that. I'm just saying it's easier to not make a total fool of yourself as an average joe than tennis.

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The guys aren’t far slobs for the most part now, but you wouldn’t be seeing Spieth, Thomas, rahm, rory running sub 4.8 forties either

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Not in their current state of course not

Golf's difficulty lies far more with amount of different things technically speaking that are required to be mastered. the variance is on every level from equipment, to swing, to lie, to course, to elements and how they all intertwine...micro to macro. That is not to say tennis is not a highly technical sport (obviously the equipment variations, court surfaces, shot selections, all require various forms of mastery and knowledge, probably one of the more technical sports. I just think it is a bit more extensive in golf.

I don't think you will get an argument from anyone that in regards to the physical demand of actually playing the sport itself that tennis outpaces golf by a long shot


But I actually think gymnastic is more difficult than both