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Omicron cannot escape T cells

Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:16 am
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:16 am
(Reuters) - The following is a summary of some recent studies on COVID-19. They include research that warrants further study to corroborate the findings and that has yet to be certified by peer review.

Omicron cannot escape body's second-line defense

In test tube experiments, researchers in South Africa exposed copies of the virus to T cells from volunteers who had received vaccines from Johnson & Johnson (JNJ.N) or Pfizer(PFE.N)/BioNTech(22UAy.DE) or who had not been vaccinated but had developed their own T cells after infection with an earlier version of the coronavirus.

"Despite Omicron's extensive mutations and reduced susceptibility to neutralizing antibodies, the majority of T cell response, induced by vaccination or natural infection, cross-recognizes the variant," the researchers reported on Tuesday on medRxiv ahead of peer review.

"Well-preserved T cell immunity to Omicron is likely to contribute to protection from severe COVID-19," which supports what South African doctors had initially suspected when most patients with Omicron infections did not become seriously ill, they said.

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Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:18 am to
So that's why 80% of cases are in the vaccinated?
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:18 am to
The shot Nazis will NOT like reading this at all!

This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 8:20 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:19 am to
This is why I'm glad I'm in the "why not both?" category
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 8:20 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:20 am to
This supports what we’re seeing clinically. Tons of new cases, including lots of vaccine breakthroughs and re-infections, but almost no rise in deaths. Nowhere near as many of the hospitalized cases are going to the ICU or dying as prior spikes.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 8:21 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:20 am to
We talked about T cell immunity 18 months ago. These scientists must lurk on poli talk.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:21 am to
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We talked about T cell immunity 18 months ago. These scientists must lurk on poli talk.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:22 am to
You also left off some stuff:

From the title:

quote:

boosters protect households from Omicron


From the article:

quote:

Researchers analyzed transmission data collected from nearly 12,000 infected households in Denmark, including 2,225 households with an Omicron infection. Overall, there were 6,397 secondary infections in the week after the first infection in the house. After accounting for other risk factors, the rate of person-to-person spread of the virus to fully vaccinated people was roughly 2.6 times higher in Omicron households than in Delta households, the researchers reported on Monday on medRxiv ahead of peer review. Booster-vaccinated people were nearly 3.7 times more likely to get infected in the Omicron households than in the Delta households, they found.

Looking only at Omicron households, however, booster-vaccinated people were 56% less likely to become infected compared to vaccinated people who had not received a booster. And overall, when booster-vaccinated people were the ones who first brought home the virus, they were less likely than unvaccinated and vaccinated-but-not-boosted people to pass it to others.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:22 am to
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We talked about T cell immunity 18 months ago. These scientists must lurk on poli talk.

Nobody has ever ignored T cell effects on the virus with Covid
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 8:23 am
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:23 am to
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This is why I'm glad I'm in the "why not both?" category


Well I guess that plays if you got the shot 1st. Though getting the shot second seems kind of pointless now.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:23 am to
It's in the link so not trying to trick anyone.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:23 am to
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So that's why 80% of cases are in the vaccinated?


Not in South Africa. Less than 25% was vaccinated when this wave hit.
Posted by PetroAg
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:23 am to
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This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:24 am to
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We talked about T cell immunity 18 months ago. These scientists must lurk on poli talk.


Nobody has ever ignored T-cell immunity. The only myth was some believing that only natural infection and not vaccination induced this.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:25 am to
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And overall, when booster-vaccinated people were the ones who first brought home the virus, they were less likely than unvaccinated and vaccinated-but-not-boosted people to pass it to others.


Completely irrelevant. Is there anyone who still thanks they are somehow not going to get COVID eventually?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:25 am to
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Well I guess that plays if you got the shot 1st. Though getting the shot second seems kind of pointless now.

a. both wane over time and there was a long gap after my infection and my vaccination

b. vaccination status has major social effects that are valuable to me
Posted by winkchance
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:26 am to
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This supports what we’re seeing clinically. Tons of new cases, including lots of vaccine breakthroughs and re-infections, but almost no rise in deaths. Nowhere near as many of the hospitalized cases are going to the ICU or dying as prior spikes.


But Pres. Potato is moving ventilators around the country.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:26 am to
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Completely irrelevant. Is there anyone who still thanks they are somehow not going to get COVID eventually?

You don't think limiting the spread of a virus that is primarily dangerous b/c it's so easily spread is relevant?

Wut?
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:27 am to
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Nobody has ever ignored T-cell immunity. The only myth was some believing that only natural infection and not vaccination induced this.


How do think folks like myself that have both the vaccine and a breakthrough delta infection figure in this equation?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:27 am to
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Nobody has ever ignored T-cell immunity


what?!

The talking heads and government won’t even recognize natural immunity through B cells. You think they are going to admit you might have T cell immunity?

The fact that they are even recommending multiple boosters tells you that they don’t acknowledge T cell immunity. The boosters are only effecting B cell counts and temporarily boosting them. Tell me what a repeated dose of the same vaccine does for T cells?
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 8:30 am
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