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Help Me Understand Deftones
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:09 pm
They have a very devoted following, but the sound just doesn’t jive with me. What makes/made them so appealing and enduring?
Chevelle does the push and pull of heavy riffs with soaring vocals and screams in an a catchy, accessible way, but the Deftones’ sound just seems…bland in comparison.
There are some songs I like: Minerva, Change in the House of Flies, Entombed, Swerve City - the rest just all sound the same to me.
Chevelle does the push and pull of heavy riffs with soaring vocals and screams in an a catchy, accessible way, but the Deftones’ sound just seems…bland in comparison.
There are some songs I like: Minerva, Change in the House of Flies, Entombed, Swerve City - the rest just all sound the same to me.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:50 pm to Boring
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Swerve City
Might wanna try Tempest off the same album. shite rocks.
I find they're great mood music for wifey and me also.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:29 pm to Saintsisit
I’ve always liked them but I as I get older Chinos voice is annoying
You need closed captioning to hear WTF he’s saying
You need closed captioning to hear WTF he’s saying
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:35 pm to Boring
Check out the first two albums
Posted on 12/30/21 at 1:22 am to Boring
your username describes the Deftones.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:56 am to dallastiger55
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I’ve always liked them but I as I get older Chinos voice is annoying
this
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:27 am to Boring
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Help Me Understand Deftones
Nah
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:40 am to Boring
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Chevelle does the push and pull of heavy riffs with soaring vocals and screams in an a catchy, accessible way
That's the appeal of Deftones to me, is that they don't go for catchy/accessible. They aren't afraid to experiment and explore within the boundaries of their sound, and they wind up finding a lot of interesting space that other similar bands never get into. They aren't prog but they definitely have some prog tendencies.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:11 am to Boring
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Chevelle does the push and pull of heavy riffs with soaring vocals and screams in an a catchy, accessible way,
Chevelle is a blatant Deftones rip off. In fact, their most popular song is a plagiarism of Be Quiet and Drive by Deftones.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:16 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Chevelle spent too much time at the Hot Carling Academy.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:19 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Chevelle is a blatant Deftones rip off. In fact, their most popular song is a plagiarism of Be Quiet and Drive by Deftones.
Early Chevelle (Point #1) sounded like more like a Tool (Undertow era) ripoff.. even the videos from that album had a Tool vibe, but it was still a pretty good album... I've seen them live twice (granted both times the shows were free), but I enjoyed them... I find them pretty inoffensive compared to a majority of bands that get radio play
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:37 am to Boring
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Help Me Understand Deftones
If you’re saying that, I doubt you’ll do it, but I suggest going through their albums chronologically.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:49 am to Boring
Saw them at a festival a few years ago. The entire crowd didn’t get Deftones.
Possibly one of the deadest crowds I’ve ever seen. Chino was doing everything he could to get a reaction, climbing amps, knocking amps and mic stands over…no reaction, nothing. As they walked off stage, he swept his arm across an amp in disgust that had about 7/8 water bottles on it back stage. Stage hands we’re freaking out trying to clean up.
Possibly a top 10 worst performance I have ever seen. If I see them on a show I purposefully don’t buy tickets.
Possibly one of the deadest crowds I’ve ever seen. Chino was doing everything he could to get a reaction, climbing amps, knocking amps and mic stands over…no reaction, nothing. As they walked off stage, he swept his arm across an amp in disgust that had about 7/8 water bottles on it back stage. Stage hands we’re freaking out trying to clean up.
Possibly a top 10 worst performance I have ever seen. If I see them on a show I purposefully don’t buy tickets.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:14 am to Geaux Frogs
Yeah I’ve seen them 5 times
Def sounds better on the albums.
Def sounds better on the albums.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:19 am to dallastiger55
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Yeah I’ve seen them 5 times
Def sounds better on the albums.
It really depends. I've seen them twice. The first time they were definitely off, and Chino sounded sick (his voice was shot). The second time, they were very tight and sounded fantastic.
That said, I wouldn't expect most festival crowds to appreciate their brand of metal, which is heavily shoegaze and space rock influenced.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 1:48 pm to Boring
Why though?
Assuming this isn't just trolling to say Chevelle is better than Deftones, enjoy the songs you like, move on with the rest.
Ultimately, none of this shite is objectively good or bad. We pretend that there is some actual objective standard because arguing about music is fun.
If anything, just go back and give their shite a listen from time to time. Some of my favorite bands I didn't jibe with at all initially. Then one day, I found something there I did like. Likewise, other bands I lived and died by when I was younger I barely listen to anymore.
Things strike you differently at different times. Unfortunately, there is a propensity to conflate it appealing or not appealing to you later in life as having grown some sort of "wisdom" necessary to enjoy it or not enjoy it any longer, but I think that is mostly untrue.
Assuming this isn't just trolling to say Chevelle is better than Deftones, enjoy the songs you like, move on with the rest.
Ultimately, none of this shite is objectively good or bad. We pretend that there is some actual objective standard because arguing about music is fun.
If anything, just go back and give their shite a listen from time to time. Some of my favorite bands I didn't jibe with at all initially. Then one day, I found something there I did like. Likewise, other bands I lived and died by when I was younger I barely listen to anymore.
Things strike you differently at different times. Unfortunately, there is a propensity to conflate it appealing or not appealing to you later in life as having grown some sort of "wisdom" necessary to enjoy it or not enjoy it any longer, but I think that is mostly untrue.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 1:52 pm to Geaux Frogs
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Possibly one of the deadest crowds I’ve ever seen. Chino was doing everything he could to get a reaction, climbing amps, knocking amps and mic stands over…no reaction, nothing. As they walked off stage, he swept his arm across an amp in disgust that had about 7/8 water bottles on it back stage.
You hated it, but you still seemed to watch the entire set to it's end?
Posted on 12/30/21 at 1:53 pm to Boring
I saw them in Mobile during the Koi Tour, one of the best live shows I’ve seen. They killed it.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:28 pm to Boring
I haven't listened to them in years, but was a fan when I was younger. I'd consider them sort of a metal version of My Bloody Valentine. The vocals are more of a sonic texture than melodic and the lyrics are an afterthought. Around the Fur is their definitive sound in my opinion, but White Pony is probably their best album overall. I agree that most of their stuff after that sounds repetitive.
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