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Pels are 7-3 with Graham-Hart-Herb-Ingram-Jonas Starting Lineup
Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:27 am
Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:27 am
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Andrew Lopez @_Andrew_Lopez
The Pelicans are on a 3-game winning streak for the first time this season.
Also, the Pels are now 8-5 in their last 13 games.
Also also, the Pels improve to 7-3 with the Graham-Hart-Herb-Ingram-Jonas starting lineup.
Who goes to the bench if/when Zion returns? With his rebounding, running the break, assists and attacking the basket, Josh Hart probably overlaps what Zion does more than Devonte or Herb. Plus Herb might be the better 3 point shooter and off ball cutter.
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:40 am to TigerinATL
Not going to be a concern for a long time. If/when he comes back in another month and we have the same group, I'd guess he would come off the bench for awhile (getting back into the swing of things). Give him Hernangomez and Temple's minutes. Jones will probably be just as effective off the bench with his ability to play so many positions..
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:41 am to TigerinATL
I actually think another piece is coming very soon that will be in the top 7-8 rotation. I also see jonas being pulled in closing lineups at times due to his struggles in pick n roll defense . Portland was eating him up in it last night. So I’m going to predict hart goes to bench to start games but is a regular in closing lineups.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:58 am to TigerinATL
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Who goes to the bench if/when Zion returns?
I think if is the more operative word than when.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:07 am to Tiger Ugly
Let Zion come off the bench Haha he would eat the second unit alive
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:09 am to TeamCKennedy
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Let Zion come off the bench Haha he would eat the second unit alive
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:43 am to TigerinATL
Josh played really well last night in a 41 minute effort. Thats a lot a running man.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:44 am to southsidedell
Imagine we still had Lonzo.
To not even get a 1st from the Bulls for an RFA is infuriating
To not even get a 1st from the Bulls for an RFA is infuriating
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 7:48 am
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:44 am to TigerinATL
It’s should be Hart. My thought is he the ideal 6th man.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:49 am to STEVED00
What really matters is the finishing five, not who comes off the bench first
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:52 am to TigerinATL
Honestly, Graham should if point zion is a thing, hart/herb can actually shoot a consistent 3, and if hart continues to improve as a facilitator.
Until that happens, realistically it should be herb since I think the veteran shooting consistency is a better option.
Until that happens, realistically it should be herb since I think the veteran shooting consistency is a better option.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:10 am to TigerinATL
If Zion comes back it’ll be with maybe 25 games left, and it’ll be on a minutes restriction.
Have him come off the bench.
Have him come off the bench.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:46 am to TigerinATL
So....Griffin does know what he is doing???
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:49 am to htran90
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Honestly, Graham should if point zion is a thing, hart/herb can actually shoot a consistent 3
Herb is coming along, but Hart is only shooting 32% from 3 this season and his career average is 34%. But I wasn't thinking specifically about spacing, I was thinking more about roles in a lineup that's working. If you think about it Hart is playing like a mini Point Zion.
Hart is
- 3rd in assists at 4.3 behind BI (5.0) Graham (4.5)
- Attacking the basket like nobody can stop him and most of the time they can't (71% within 3 feet)
- 2nd most rebounds at 7.1 and often gets them and starts a one man fast break
So if the lineup is good, and Hart is playing like Zion, then it would make sense that Zion could slide into Hart's role with the least amount of disruption.
To me it's not a question of who's the worst of the current starting 5, it's about how that current starting 5 fit together. I also agree with the comment that Hart might be the one to go to the bench but would likely finish a lot of games.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:48 am to TigerinATL
The better record also coincides with Willy getting minutes over Jaxson
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:19 am to TigerinATL
The reason why our starting lineup works so well right now is because we have very mobile and switchable defenders outside of Graham and Valanciunas in the starting lineup. You see Herb and Hart switch and it's isn't a mismatch. And they're able to hide Graham and and Ingram in defense for the most part as those guys aren't tasked with tough defensive assignments for the majority of the game.
The concern when Zion comes back, you'll lose the mobility and switchability that the Jones/Hart tandem brings to the table.
The concern when Zion comes back, you'll lose the mobility and switchability that the Jones/Hart tandem brings to the table.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:20 am to TigerinATL
ATL nailed it. Zion will likely be the first starter to get a break, so Hart will be the first sub in.
I would hope that Zion's return would result in an 9-man rotation: Graham, Herb, BI, Zion, JV as starters, with Hart, NAW, Billy, and Trey off the bench.
I would hope that Zion's return would result in an 9-man rotation: Graham, Herb, BI, Zion, JV as starters, with Hart, NAW, Billy, and Trey off the bench.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:59 am to TigerinATL
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So if the lineup is good, and Hart is playing like Zion, then it would make sense that Zion could slide into Hart's role with the least amount of disruption.
I think the “emergence of Josh Hart” and our winning lately go hand in hand.
I love Herb, but I’d be pushing him to the bench and staggering minutes early in the game with Hart/Ingram/Graham, so that 2nd unit isn’t left on such an island.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:20 am to kneenola
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The better record also coincides with Willy getting minutes over Jaxson
BINGO!!
It pains me to say it, but JAX is a coach killer.
Griff made Alvin play him. Alvin got fired.
Griff pressured SVG to play him. SVG got fired
Griff wanted Willie to play him early in the season and people were question Willie's judgement.
JAX has one more year on his rookie contract after this year. I would ship him off to Birmingham and not recall him until the Squandon season is over. That way he can get sorely needed playing time while 'learning how to play the game'. Then next year we can see if Jaxson's mental game has caught up with his athleticism and make personnel decisions accirdingly.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:45 am to supe12sta12z
Ingram is a better defender than y’all give him credit for. His offensive usage rate is so high of course he won’t be a A defender but I think he’s a B- or C+ defender. Also graham plays hard on the defensive end his size just gives him problems but I have also seen worst defenders than him.
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