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Robert E Lee to Allen Toussant
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:32 am
In a meeting today, New Orleans is considering a change from street name Robert E Lee to Allen Toussant (sp?)
“Item #17 Renaming Robert E Lee Blvd
“Street Name Change 004/21: Consideration of the renaming of the entirety of Robert E. Lee Boulevard from Peoples Avenue to Lakeshore Drive/West End Boulevard as Allen Toussaint Boulevard Business Recommended for Deferral“
Now I’m not against Re naming streets as a practice. It’s been done for hundreds of years. Robert E Lee was certainly an accomplished human being despite the one blip on his resume.
Okay so maybe owning slaves is where we draw the line but aren’t there other people out there who have more significance than Allen Toussant? Sure he could play that piano and write good songs but Does he not have some flaws as a human? Certainly. We all do.
So maybe streets should just be named for inanimate objects or symbols. Like “circle street”. Where’s the harm in that name? Or “beignet boulevard”? Everyone loves beignets .
Full disclosure: Allen Toussant cut me off in traffic and shot me the bird. Had Dr dre music blaring out of the car. At least I think it was him.
“Item #17 Renaming Robert E Lee Blvd
“Street Name Change 004/21: Consideration of the renaming of the entirety of Robert E. Lee Boulevard from Peoples Avenue to Lakeshore Drive/West End Boulevard as Allen Toussaint Boulevard Business Recommended for Deferral“
Now I’m not against Re naming streets as a practice. It’s been done for hundreds of years. Robert E Lee was certainly an accomplished human being despite the one blip on his resume.
Okay so maybe owning slaves is where we draw the line but aren’t there other people out there who have more significance than Allen Toussant? Sure he could play that piano and write good songs but Does he not have some flaws as a human? Certainly. We all do.
So maybe streets should just be named for inanimate objects or symbols. Like “circle street”. Where’s the harm in that name? Or “beignet boulevard”? Everyone loves beignets .
Full disclosure: Allen Toussant cut me off in traffic and shot me the bird. Had Dr dre music blaring out of the car. At least I think it was him.
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Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:34 am to SlidellCajun
Allen Toussant is a great person to name a street after
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:35 am to SlidellCajun
Completely unnecessary and asinine. Glad Thats the most pressing matter.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:35 am to SlidellCajun
Allen Toussaint is at least from New Orleans
Robert E Lee fought a war that New Orleans pussed out of about three weeks in
Robert E Lee fought a war that New Orleans pussed out of about three weeks in
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 8:42 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:35 am to SlidellCajun
quote:How else can NOLA further its own continuing terminal trivialization?
New Orleans is considering a change from street name Robert E Lee to Allen Toussant
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:37 am to SlidellCajun
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This post was edited on 12/25/21 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:40 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:40 am to crewdepoo
quote:But not great enough to spell his name correctly.
Allen Toussant is a great person to name a street after
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:41 am to SlidellCajun
I don’t have a problem naming a street after Allen Toussaint. In the 90s he’d stop by my neighborhood bar once in a while and drink a beer out on the patio. Most people didn’t know who he was. The Rolls Royce was the only clue that he was out of the ordinary.
-However- it shouldn’t require taking Lee’s name off of a street to name a street after Toussaint.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:42 am to SlidellCajun
It's more important to remember that this will help reduce crime in New Orleans and make us all safer. Just like when they took Lee's statue down. Just look at how much better things got once we got that rolling.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:51 am to SlidellCajun
It is pretty fitting. New Orleans was once a historically relevant city, a national and international economic powerhouse. It was more appropriate for streets to be named after major historical figures.
NO has since drastically declined and embraced the manufactured narrative of being a "cultural city," ie a tourist and hospitality destination. Renaming streets from major historic figures to local musicians is a perfect symbol of this spiraling fall from relevance.
No offense to Mr Toussaint or his family. He was a great musician and producer. But the name would mean nothing to most Americans and 50 years from now, almost no one except a tiny handful of cultural historians will know who he was.
NO has since drastically declined and embraced the manufactured narrative of being a "cultural city," ie a tourist and hospitality destination. Renaming streets from major historic figures to local musicians is a perfect symbol of this spiraling fall from relevance.
No offense to Mr Toussaint or his family. He was a great musician and producer. But the name would mean nothing to most Americans and 50 years from now, almost no one except a tiny handful of cultural historians will know who he was.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:54 am to SlidellCajun
How bout Jefferson Davis Hogg Drive?
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:56 am to Dire Wolf
quote:
Robert E Lee fought a war that New Orleans "pussed" out of about three weeks in
That is true about New Orleans, but Lee had NOTHING to do with the surrender of the city on April 24th 1862. It wasn't until 3 years later almost to the day that Lee's surrender at Appomattox Courthouse had an impact on New Orleans history.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:57 am to Dire Wolf
quote:
Allen Toussaint is at least from New Orleans
Robert E Lee fought a war that New Orleans pussed out of about three weeks in
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:09 am to SlidellCajun
They should extend it to connect with Old Metairie and rename it Harry E. Lee Boulevard.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:13 am to SlidellCajun
Not sure if it matters to you, but Toussaint lived on the 1400 block of Robert E Lee.
They are renaming the road he lived on for years.
They are renaming the road he lived on for years.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 9:28 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:14 am to crewdepoo
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This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 9:16 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:17 am to tigahbruh
quote:
the name would mean nothing to most Americans and 50 years from now, almost no one except a tiny handful of cultural historians will know who he was.
Same could be said of Robert E Lee.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:24 am to SlidellCajun
quote:
In a meeting today, New Orleans is considering a change from street name Robert E Lee to Allen Toussant (sp?)
“Item #17 Renaming Robert E Lee Blvd
“Street Name Change 004/21: Consideration of the renaming of the entirety of Robert E. Lee Boulevard from Peoples Avenue to Lakeshore Drive/West End Boulevard as Allen Toussaint Boulevard Business Recommended for Deferral“
Now I’m not against Re naming streets as a practice. It’s been done for hundreds of years. Robert E Lee was certainly an accomplished human being despite the one blip on his resume.
Okay so maybe owning slaves is where we draw the line but aren’t there other people out there who have more significance than Allen Toussant? Sure he could play that piano and write good songs but Does he not have some flaws as a human? Certainly. We all do.
So maybe streets should just be named for inanimate objects or symbols. Like “circle street”. Where’s the harm in that name? Or “beignet boulevard”? Everyone loves beignets .
Full disclosure: Allen Toussant cut me off in traffic and shot me the bird. Had Dr dre music blaring out of the car. At least I think it was him.
Holding up Lee or Davis as heroes is the dumbest thing white decedents of CW vets can do. Honor those foot soldiers who fought the ultimate "rich man's" war, but not the leaders who got them into a foolish and unwinnable war and got many of my ancestors needlessly killed, while suffering little hardship and living a life of ease post war.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 9:26 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:37 am to jordan21210
quote:
Same could be said of Robert E Lee.
And yet here we are arguing about him 160 years later, and no one in this thread does not know who he is. So no, not equivalent.
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