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John Hughes
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:01 pm
Always wondered what the deal was with Anthony Michael Hall and Molly Ringwald in regards to John Hughes.
He didn't discover Hall but he "discovered" Molly. But then he spent his career writing movies for them...
It turns out most of his movies FOR THEM.
Very rarely does a Director commit himself to making entire careers out of an actor. There are some directors that cast the same actors all the time like QT...
But Hughes wrote movies for Molly and Anthony Michael Hall seemingly every year.
Hughes wrote Ferris Bueller for Anthony Michael Hall but he passed on it.
Hughes also wrote Pretty in Pink for Molly and Anthony but Hall passed on it because he thought it was a reboot of Sixteen Candles.
Imagine the resume:
National Lampoon's Vacation...
John Hughes movies:
Sixteen Candles
Breakfast Club
Weird Science
Ferris Bueller
Pretty In Pink
And then after Hughes, mostly nada...same with Ringwald. Just weird how Hollywood responded to them post-Hughes, like they were persona non grata.
He didn't discover Hall but he "discovered" Molly. But then he spent his career writing movies for them...
It turns out most of his movies FOR THEM.
Very rarely does a Director commit himself to making entire careers out of an actor. There are some directors that cast the same actors all the time like QT...
But Hughes wrote movies for Molly and Anthony Michael Hall seemingly every year.
Hughes wrote Ferris Bueller for Anthony Michael Hall but he passed on it.
Hughes also wrote Pretty in Pink for Molly and Anthony but Hall passed on it because he thought it was a reboot of Sixteen Candles.
Imagine the resume:
National Lampoon's Vacation...
John Hughes movies:
Sixteen Candles
Breakfast Club
Weird Science
Ferris Bueller
Pretty In Pink
And then after Hughes, mostly nada...same with Ringwald. Just weird how Hollywood responded to them post-Hughes, like they were persona non grata.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:04 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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like they were persona non grata.
They were grownupa non childa. Lots of child and teen stars don't make the transition to adult stardom.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:16 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Hughes wrote Ferris Bueller for Anthony Michael Hall but he passed on it.
Hughes also wrote Pretty in Pink for Molly and Anthony but Hall passed on it because he thought it was a reboot of Sixteen Candles.
Just heard him talk about this. He was obviously busy and couldn't take Ferris. He didn't mention Pretty in Pink here as far as I know. I'm assuming he was going to be the Ducky role?
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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He didn't discover Hall but he "discovered" Molly.
I remember Molly Ringwald playing a tween daughter in the movie Tempest in the early eighties. So I don't know what you mean the John Hughes discovered her.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:39 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Hughes was an incredible talent and lacked the sumbagginess of most Hollywood power players. He never lived in LA and always set his films in the Chicago-land area which gave them a much more authentic feeling.
He also abrubtly retired in the 90s so he could raise his kids without distraction. He supposedly ghost wrote quite a few things in the 90s and 00s.
He was a guy who made it the hard way. He supposedly wrote 15 scripts before getting one made. He was also an incredibly prolific writer.
He said he wrote Sixteen Candles and Weird Science in two days each, Planes, Trains & Automobiles in three days, and Ferris Bueller in six days.
He also abrubtly retired in the 90s so he could raise his kids without distraction. He supposedly ghost wrote quite a few things in the 90s and 00s.
He was a guy who made it the hard way. He supposedly wrote 15 scripts before getting one made. He was also an incredibly prolific writer.
He said he wrote Sixteen Candles and Weird Science in two days each, Planes, Trains & Automobiles in three days, and Ferris Bueller in six days.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:51 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And then after Hughes, mostly nada...same with Ringwald. Just weird how Hollywood responded to them post-Hughes, like they were persona non grata
Not sure about AMH, but Ringwald got tired of being typecast and tired of her image as a “teen” and went to stage acting. Pretty sure she did so in Europe. At least that’s what I recall from some E Hollywood story I saw about her. She had success overseas, but I believe she got out of Hollywood cause she felt her image as a teen character was hurting her career. I don’t think Hollywood necessarily ostracized her.
I know I didn’t imagine that shite. I just can’t recall where I heard it.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:02 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Anthony Michael Hall said that Hughes let him cast the actors that would play his buddies in sixteen candles.
So Hall cast Jon Cusak and the other guy.
Interesting tid bit.
So Hall cast Jon Cusak and the other guy.
Interesting tid bit.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:10 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Not sure about AMH
He has been acting nonstop too. He hit a growth spurt right after the Hughes movies and by the late 80s had outgrown the nerdy, awkward teen roles. But he legit has never stopped acting and has been in major films & television roles over the years. He doesnt look anything like he did when he was a kid, so maybe the OP just never realized it was the same actor. In 89-90, only a few years after the Hughes films, he starred as the a-hole in Edward Scissorhands and was completely unrecognizable by then. But he has been one of the more successful 80's kid stars.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:57 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:15 pm to Jack Ruby
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He said he wrote Sixteen Candles and Weird Science in two days each, Planes, Trains & Automobiles in three days, and Ferris Bueller in six days.
I’d put his 8 year run from 1983-1990 up against any film writer/director/producer:
Mr Mom
Vacation
Sixteen Candles
The breakfast club
European Vacation
Weird Science
Pretty in Pink
Ferris Buellers Day Off
Some Kind of Wonderful
Planes Trains and Automobiles
She’s Having a Baby
Great Outdoors
Uncle Buck
Christmas Vacation
Home Alone
All released during that time frame. He wrote every one and produced and/or directed nearly all of them.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:24 pm to Jack Ruby
He was also a Republican and a Reagan fan.
He wouldn't last a day in Hollyweird these days.
He wouldn't last a day in Hollyweird these days.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:56 pm to TTownTiger
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He hit a growth spurt right after the Hughes movies and by the late 80s had outgrown the nerdy, awkward teen roles
“I broke my dick, Coach!!”
Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:09 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Not sure about AMH, but Ringwald got tired of being typecast and tired of her image as a “teen” and went to stage acting.
No, she had flop after flop as an adult that killed any chance of a career as an adult. The Pick-up Artist, For Keeps, Fresh Horses, Strike It Rich, and Betsy's Wedding. By the end of 1990, her career was pretty much over.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:59 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I love The Dead Zone series , but didn't notice his name on the credits during the first season on USA Network. When I did see it, and realized that was the geek, all grown up, I was stunned. Like many gingers, he was just an ugly duckling. I was happy for him. Being "Red on the head like a d*ck on a dog", is no fun. 
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:10 pm to Bruco
AMH said that Hughes wanted him for the lead in Ferris Bueller but AMH was already booked for something else.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:40 pm to jatilen
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No, she had flop after flop as an adult that killed any chance of a career as an adult. The Pick-up Artist, For Keeps, Fresh Horses, Strike It Rich, and Betsy's Wedding. By the end of 1990, her career was pretty much over.
Certainly can’t argue the point that those movies blew.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:50 am to GeauxTigerTM
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. I'm assuming he was going to be the Ducky role?
He was going to be DuckIe. He said it in an interview.
Dude could've had one of the greatest 80s resumes but it seems like not just child star transition but he was John Hughes or nothing. Seems weird he would ever turn down a Hughes role.
I can't think of another Director that singlehandedly made someone's career not even Sergio Leone.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 5:55 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:13 am to Bruco
quote:Underrated
Mr Mom
quote:GOAT
The breakfast club
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:08 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Always wondered what the deal was with Anthony Michael Hall and Molly Ringwald in regards to John Hughes.
He didn't discover Hall but he "discovered" Molly. But then he spent his career writing movies for them...
It turns out most of his movies FOR THEM.
Very rarely does a Director commit himself to making entire careers out of an actor. There are some directors that cast the same actors all the time like QT...
But Hughes wrote movies for Molly and Anthony Michael Hall seemingly every year.
do you even muse, bro?
Artists of all media have regularly found their "inspiration" and latched on to it throughout history. It's not a new phenomenon.
In movies alone I can name a handful off the top of my head
Woody Allen and Diane Keaton
Johnny Depp and Tim Burton
Robert DeNiro and Martin Scorsese
Wes Anderson and Bill Murray
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:34 am to Zephyrius
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I remember Molly Ringwald playing a tween daughter in the movie Tempest in the early eighties. So I don't know what you mean the John Hughes discovered her.
She was also on the first season of the Facts of Life.
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