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re: Why did LSU hire Dinardo
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:09 am to PurpleExile
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:09 am to PurpleExile
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Dinardo signed a five year deal for $300K per year. His base salary was $95,000 per year.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:24 am to BayouTigers4Life
It was a series of things not the least was Sullivan's buyout at TCU and Dean's apprehension at a buyout. It was the Curley and Archer factor as well by some people on the BoS like Charles Cusimano who were not sold on Sullivan. At the time Bill McCartney was the man in college football and DiNardo was one of his guys (so was Les Miles) and if McCartney was high on a person you talked to him. You were not getting McCartney even though he retired at Colorado that year . Originally, according to Cusimano he suggested making a run at McCartney and seeing what his price would be. If he were serious Cusimano and other Board members would find the money but McCartney stopped them cold. He suggested DiNardo who had been on his staff at Colorado and was not happy at Vanderbilt who treated him like an afterthought. Sullivan wanted the job but DiNardo wanted it too. Dean wanted Sullivan, but Andonie and Cusimano wanted DiNardo because of McCartney. The kicker was the buyout. Sullivan said if you want me, you have to pay my buyout....that's the way it works. DiNardo ups the ante and says " If the contract is right, I will pay my own buyout." Everyone jumped at it.
In the end though, I don't think DiNardo paid most of the buyout himself, he had help
In the end though, I don't think DiNardo paid most of the buyout himself, he had help
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:04 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:32 am to BayouTigers4Life
Once the Sullivan thing happened, I think part of the logic was that he was over achieving with Vandy and maybe would be better at LSU.
And, as others have pointed out, he did in fact pull us up a bit from the doldrums. His Tepper intransigence really got him.
But hey. At least Dinardo was ACTUALLY a good guy unlike Miles. So, there's that.
And, as others have pointed out, he did in fact pull us up a bit from the doldrums. His Tepper intransigence really got him.
But hey. At least Dinardo was ACTUALLY a good guy unlike Miles. So, there's that.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:01 am to rob62
Dude, what level of revisionist history are you engaging in? 1) Emmert was not even a wasted cumshot at the time. 2) No one wanted to keep Curley, least of all Dean by the end.
In the end Curley did himself in. There was no Mark Emmert at LSU in 1994 he does not show up until 1999. The real impetus to get rid of Hallman started that summer with Larry Bankston getting all over Dean because he recognized that football could help the University which was suffering from budget issues and declining enrollment.
The legend of Mark Emmert is already overblown without having to add shite in there that could not possibly have happened
In the end Curley did himself in. There was no Mark Emmert at LSU in 1994 he does not show up until 1999. The real impetus to get rid of Hallman started that summer with Larry Bankston getting all over Dean because he recognized that football could help the University which was suffering from budget issues and declining enrollment.
The legend of Mark Emmert is already overblown without having to add shite in there that could not possibly have happened
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:08 am to rob62
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He wanted to keep Curley. Emert forced his hand. Tiger Stadium was down to under 40,000 at kickoff for many games. fricking idiot (Dean) hiring another idiot (Curley).
This is bullshite. Go look it up. Curley was fired about five years BEFORE Emmert came to LSU. I think he was still at Montana State back then.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:18 am to PurpleExile
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PurpleExile
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His first three seasons in Baton Rouge were winning seasons. Going from Carl Reese to Lou Tepper as defensive coordinator was Dinardo's downfall.
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This post is pretty on point. However, Dinardo’s biggest problem wasn’t Tepper. It was Bob McConnell as the OC in 1999 when Watts left after the 98 season. Tepper was a bad hire but defense definitely improved from 98 to 99. It wasn’t as good as Reese’s still. But McConnell’s offense was so bad the defense seemed to never leave the field. What made it worse, was knowing that we had the chance to get Rich Rodriguez in as the office of coordinator that year. He was the up and coming guy back then
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:35 am to JPLSU11
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Because Pat Sullivan backed out.
Because Sullivan assumed LSU would pay his buyout and freaked when they told him to get bent.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:37 am to BayouTigers4Life
I heard bc of the restaurant.
Mob ties too
Mob ties too
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:38 am to p&g
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I heard bc of the restaurant.
Mob ties too
nah, it was because they couldn't get Rudy, DiNardo was second choice
Posted on 12/7/21 at 11:10 am to notbilly
You are right I wrote Curley but intended to say Dinardo.
However, Dean was responsible for both which was my true point.
However, Dean was responsible for both which was my true point.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 11:53 am to notbilly
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Tepper was a bad hire but defense definitely improved from 98 to 99. But McConnell’s offense was so bad the defense seemed to never leave the field
I’m not sure I agree with this fully, although the offense definitely got worse and yes didn’t give the defense much help. But we were still getting run up for 30 and 40 pretty consistently.
I think the shock and awe of how bad the D was had worn off by then though which maybe made it feel like it improved lol.
I remember the UGA game in 98 so vividly. The anger of so many fans walking out of Tiger Stadium was palpable.
Carter just eviscerated us in what was probably one of the earlier “dual threat” type big games from a QB. It was just shocking seeing a true freshman (even though he was older due to baseball career) do whatever he wanted against what was the #6 ranked team in the country.
Then follow that up with the next home game against Kentucky where Couch embarrassed us as well and the verdict was in on Tepper. If the energy leaving the stadium after UGA was bad after Kentucky it was straight up nuclear.
So I think by 99 it was just accepted that the D would suck so we hoped the offense would bail us out, and when they didn’t and got worse it just took the focus off of the D
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:00 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Joe Dean had to be be talked out of giving both Curley Hallman and Gerry Dinardo one more year.
Think about that.
Think about that.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:22 pm to TROCKS50
I believe Curley's base pay on his first contract was 90K a year.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 2:18 pm to Geaux Guy
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I remember he took over a multi year 1-10 Vandy and knocked off ranked Georgia and Ole Miss teams.
The worst part? That one win Vandy got in 1990 (prior to Dinardo) was against LSU, when the Tigers got called for offensive pass interference on a completed Hail Mary pass that would have won the game.
Man, those years were tough.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted on 12/7/21 at 2:27 pm to LagdonCG
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Moody found Mack and Called me back telling me not interested. I suggested they take a look at Dinardo who was coaching at Vandy.
Mack would have been a great hire in ‘87 to replace Arnsparger, and if Joe Dean had been willing to spend above market rate and commit to kind needed facility upgrades could probably have reeled Mack back to BR.
Joe “one of us” Dean was every bit as incompetent as the other recent “one of us” hires in O, Smoke, and Johnny Jones.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:09 pm to Tiger Voodoo
I remember losing at home to a bad Alabama team in 98. Even though we were sinking and the season was lost, LSU had a great opportunity to beat Bama and end their streak in Death Valley. It wasn't to be as LSU was snakebit that day. I remember an Alabama kickoff where there kicker fell down while kicking the ball. The low line drive hit a Tiger up man and glanced off of him for a turnover that Bama recovered.
Despite being so bad in 1998, LSU managed to absolutely dominate the SEC WEST champ MSU by a score of 41-6.
Despite being so bad in 1998, LSU managed to absolutely dominate the SEC WEST champ MSU by a score of 41-6.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:11 pm to MEd LSU
Cheap hire
Before the big paydays came into play
I don't hate Dinardo
He did do some decent things to help LSU find it's footing pre Saban
Before the big paydays came into play
I don't hate Dinardo
He did do some decent things to help LSU find it's footing pre Saban
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:43 pm to BayouTigers4Life
Joe Dean used to say (in that "strinnng music" growl of his...), "People call me all the time and tell me they want to work for LSU. I say, 'OK, but how are you making me money? Show me how you can pay for yourself.'"
And that's pretty much how he ran the athletic department. To him, it was a zero sum proposition. He considered his budget set in stone.
In the LSU football history books, Dean and Hallman will forever be joined at the hip. What a sad legacy.
And that's pretty much how he ran the athletic department. To him, it was a zero sum proposition. He considered his budget set in stone.
In the LSU football history books, Dean and Hallman will forever be joined at the hip. What a sad legacy.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:12 pm to notbilly
Finally someone remembers what happened. Defense definitely improved in year 2.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:10 pm to BayouTigers4Life
Everything is pretty much covered here as far as how he got here and why he was hired and why he was fired. I just wanted to add that Dinardo should be brought back for a game and honored. He did a lot of great things for LSU. Without him pushing so hard LSU may not have gotten Kevin Faulk who made it cool for recruits to stay home and go to LSU again. He was responsible for the Bayou Bash, the Bengal Belles and I even think the Gridiron Club but I don't think that is a thing anymore. It didn't end good but he did a lot of good things and laid a foundation for Saban. The heart of the 2001 SEC Champions were Dinardo recruits.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 6:11 pm
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