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Southern Baptists Oust Oklahoma Church Over Pastor Performing in Blackface

Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:24 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:24 pm
This is a weird story IMO. The event in question took place in 2017 at a church banquet. Evidently the skit was done as a tribute to Ray Charles. No one is claiming malicious intent. Tone deafness, perhaps, but not malice. But the Southern Baptists of Oklahoma decided to oust the church.

Thoughts?

quote:

Sherman Jaquess impersonated singer Ray Charles at a church event in 2017, wearing blackface, an Afro wig and dark glasses

The Southern Baptist Convention kicked out an Oklahoma church after its pastor defended performing in blackface as singer Ray Charles at one church event and impersonating a Native American woman at another.

The Executive Committee of the nation's largest Protestant denomination voted to oust Matoaka Baptist Church of Ochelata on Tuesday.

MSN


This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:29 pm to
Did they ever tell him he couldn't do that? A good lawyer will clean them out.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101720 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:29 pm to
Shouldn’t stop him from becoming PM of Canada, however.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Shexter
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:31 pm to
That's a copy of the old SNL skit with Stevie Wonder and Frank Sinatra.

Joe Piscapo and Eddie Murphy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h2jZtuRuic



Frank Sinatra: “You are black, and I am white
Life’s an Eskimo Pie, let’s.. take a bite!

Stevie Wonder: “I am dark, and you are light.”

Frank Sinatra: “You are blind as a bat, and I have sight!
Side by side, you are my amigo,
Negro, let’s not fiiiiiiiight!”

Stevie Wonder: “Ebony, ivory
Living in perfect harmony.”

Frank Sinatra: “Salt and pepper,
Sammy and Dean
Stevie and me are peachy keen!”

Stevie Wonder: “You are white.”

Frank Sinatra: “You are black – and who cares!”

Who cares, baby!




This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by BhamBlazeDog
Birmingham
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Thoughts?



quote:

Southern Baptists


That's all I needed to see, no thoughts here.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:43 pm to
2017? I’ll take tone deaf in the 80’s, but that’s pretty dumb to do regardless of intent in 2017.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13080 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:48 pm to
Which part of the bible covers blackface?
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:48 pm to
I cant fathom how someone is dumb enough to do that in 2017. Not 1987. Not even 1997. 2017.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
34691 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:50 pm to
I'm so over the SBC as a whole. An uproar over black face - which is a politically charged topic that I don't care to engage in- and yet the SBC will literally sweep sexual assault under the rug to protect their own while proudly broadcasting their misogyny. done with the whole organization.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:50 pm to
I'm guessing they were playing 7 Spanish Angels


Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59171 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Southern Baptists Oust Oklahoma Church Over Pastor Performing in Blackface


Southern Baptists have lost their balls
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
4862 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:52 pm to
Let me know when we correct Joy Berhart, Fidel Castro’s Canadian Son, and Ted Danson.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Fidel Castro’s Canadian Son,

People are still believing this lie in 2023?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
64023 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

2017? I’ll take tone deaf in the 80’s, but that’s pretty dumb to do regardless of intent in 2017.
Agreed. I'm wondering if it rises to the level of being ousted from the Convention, however
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59171 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

and yet the SBC will literally sweep sexual assault under the rug to protect their own


I'm not a fan of the current SBC, see my post above, but this is factually false. The SBC literally did the opposite. They actually went OVERBOARD letting the world know what was going on to score political points at the expense of pastors who were simply accused and never verified to be guilty. It became an internal witch hunt.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Tone deafness, perhaps


frick "tone deafness." If your "tone" is that you can't distinguish between someone saying or doing something that is intended to be hateful and something that isn't, then the problem is you. Words don't have magical powers. Face paint also doesn't have magical powers that totally depend on the person's actual skin color.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
171743 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:59 pm to
Might have helped to get the skin tone right and not go full minstrel show

Then again by 2017 people had figured out doing blackface was pretty fricking stupid
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4104 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:00 pm to
That’s not what Black face is.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
34691 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

I'm not a fan of the current SBC, see my post above, but this is factually false.

my personal experience is quite different. perhaps, regionally there are some differences that do not align, but I'd be hard-pressed to ever see genuine concern about the safety and wellbeing of females, especially young females, that supersedes that of the pastoral staff.
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