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South Korea and Indonesia possibly moving away from US dollar for trade

Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:54 am
Posted by member12
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:54 am
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The central banks of South Korea and Indonesia have signed a memorandum of understanding to promote bilateral trade in national currencies, moving away from the US dollar as an intermediary.

The step is expected to help South Korean and Indonesian corporations to lower transaction costs and exposure to exchange rate risks, the central banks of the two nations said in a joint statement.

The Bank of Indonesia and the Bank of Korea highlighted that they would continue to strengthen collaboration through information-sharing and regular discussions, as the two nations seek to boost financial ties.
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:56 am to
America is like the chick after the bukkake ends

Everyone leaves town and there we are all alone with nothing to offer and we’ve been used and discarded
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27672 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:58 am to
Let’s go Brandon
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:59 am to
I find it fascinating how people think its a foregone conclusion that two countries (indonesia and SK in this case) must use US dollars to buy shite from eachother.

Posted by Navajo61490
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:20 am to
Is the new currency pegged to the USD?
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1011 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:21 am to
Well, when you tank the dollar as hard as we have over the last 3 years, it starts to have a snowball effect on other economies that rely on the dollar. If inflation is bad for us, imagine what its like for them.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
2498 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:22 am to
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America is like the chick after the bukkake ends

Bukkake isn’t the best analogy but if we’re gonna make it work, the US would be the financier/production/director/ distributor of the bukkake. South Korea and Indonesia would be the on screen talent. In this situation the on screen talent have decided to stop working for a large studio and instead finance/direct/produce/distribute the bukkake themselves while still participating in the bukkake.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:42 am to
This one I actually have a problem with. If South Korea moves from the dollar then they really are biting the hand that feeds them.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:47 am to
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This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:48 am to
Yay.

More countries helping contribute to the fall of the US dollar
Posted by Techdog89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
928 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:49 am to
I wonder how they would feel if we abandoned the 38th parallel, removed our military, closed the bases and took our guns/planes/equipment/missles home? Then put a huge tariff on any cars from South Korea sold in the U.S.? I know Sleepy Joe is the reason for this issue and he wouldn't do this but what if? Trump wouldn't stand for this crap.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:51 am to
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This one I actually have a problem with. If South Korea moves from the dollar then they really are biting the hand that feeds them.


I've never seen a more rapid destruction of the US economy and political power anywhere in the world over the last 60 years that what we are seeing right now. The last time a country imploded like this was Germany in the 1940s.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:52 am to
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Is the new currency pegged to the USD?


Yuan
Posted by STigers
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2022
3042 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:24 am to
All part of the plan for this administration.
Tank our Economy
How can anyone not realize it’s all on purpose
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:25 am to
To which Plugs responded,"F*** you, I'll print all the monopoly money I need. Here take this dollar with the tranny face in place of George Washington and pay somebody to gnaw that thing off your face". - Creepy Joe Biden Unhinged.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 11:27 am
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
9935 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:26 am to
We need a president and congress who will pull every dollar given to those countries who are going against the dollar. That would nip this shite in the bud quick.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:53 am to
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I find it fascinating how people think its a foregone conclusion that two countries (indonesia and SK in this case) must use US dollars to buy shite from eachother.


It's not that they "must". That they do, however, gives the USD more value. The more countries using them, the more value for the currency. If we start seeing countries abandon using it, the value will drop. The USD dropping in value is expressed through inflation.

Where this becomes especially problematic is with the US debt. Part of the USD's desirability is due to US debt being such a safe haven (there's little interest, but you are pretty much guaranteed a return). As the desirability of the USD in transaction wanes, the value of the USD wanes and thus so too does the value of our debt (because who wants to loan money to someone who is becoming ever more irresponsible and fewer people are valuing what they have to offer).

So what happens when people become less likely to buy US debt? Inflation increases as the value of the USD falls, meanwhile Congress will look to the Fed to fund its ever-increasing deficit spending (because they won't let a little thing like dropping USD value get in the way of buying votes and favors through spending money we don't have). And what happens when you begin making shitloads of things fewer and fewer people want?




I'm not saying this is a definite problem, but that it could be. If a major trading country like SK finds some extra benefit from trading in anything(s) other than the USD, it likely wouldn't take other countries long to look into that for themselves. If they can replicate that success, they will. The BRICS countries are already looking at creating their own currency to move away from the petro dollar and then entice other countries to move from it as well.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
28762 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

I find it fascinating how people think its a foregone conclusion that two countries (indonesia and SK in this case) must use US dollars to buy shite from eachother.


Ever been there?

You walk around indonesia with MILLIONS in the currency just to go to the grocery store.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
28762 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 12:08 pm to
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The last time a country imploded like this was Germany in the 1940s.


Rewind a bit.

Hitler was only possible because pf the implosion. He didn't cause the implosion.

He caused more of an explosion.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 12:14 pm to
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Well, when you tank the dollar as hard as we have over the last 3 years, it starts to have a snowball effect on other economies that rely on the dollar. If inflation is bad for us, imagine what its like for them.


Tanked dollar in comparison to what?
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