re: Wonder if Landry realizes this will cost him his job?

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Landry’s political fate is tied directly to this hire.

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He’s already lost my vote if there’s ANY other republican to vote for…and that was before all this silliness

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Wonder if Landry realizes this will cost him his job?

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According to TD... nobody voted for him anyway.

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Nothing is too early with some of this bunch

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It’s definitely too early to say LSU football is or will be screwed up. I think it will eventually work itself out. But it’s certainly not too early to say this process has been a clusterfrick and is a bad look.

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Rewind a week, and everyone wanted Kelly and Woodward fired for the most part.

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A week ago people weren’t happy with both for sure, but wanting them fired this quickly wasn’t thought to seriously even be on the table. Because it would have had to look like this unorganized mess where nobody knows who’s actually in charge.

Most people thought the best that would happen was Sloan and Davis being let go. More realistically was that Sloan would be let go or have play calling duties stripped and let go at the end of the season with Davis. This time last week there were zero people—we commoners at least—who actually thought we’d be here today without Kelly and Woodward.

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They get fired, and it's an epic meltdown because of the way it happened

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I’m not part of the meltdown, but those that are have a right to be. Just because they may have gotten the results they wanted doesn’t mean they can’t be very critical of the process in which it went down. And here’s why it matters—you still have to hire their replacements, and, even if we wind up with a great coach, it has undoubtedly made hiring that great coach much more difficult and given them a ton more leverage which will probably end up with them having another gigantic contract with another huge buyout—one of the reasons Kelly was despised, and the sole reason Woodward was. (Well, that and the vocal Will Wade sycophants).

Our next coach will not know who his boss is going to be, probably both literally—if we haven’t hired an AD and Verge really does handle the search—and figuratively. Let’s say we hire the Georgia AD next week, and he takes over the search and hires the coach. After this week, it won’t be clear he’s actually in charge. Is it Landry? The BOS whose members are appointed by Landry? The new President who will only have been in office for a month? Or will it be Holden Spaht, a tech billionaire who lives in Silicon Valley?

Also, I’m fine with Kelly not being the coach next year. But I think we should have waited to fire him after the season. That’s 3 coaches in a row we’ve fired mid-season. One, though it was time for Les, was the most successful HC in LSU history who won an NC. I think he deserved to finish the season. Firing him mid-season didn’t accomplish anything as we wound up hiring the interim in Orgeron, who was not remotely qualified for the job and would never have gotten it without having been the interim.

Then, after a rocky start, O wins the Fiesta Bowl in 2018 and put together the best team in the history of college football in 2019. And he was shitcanned less than 2 years later. He needed to go, obviously, but despite his off field issues, he still was fired less than 2 years after fielding the GOAT team. But it’s not like he went 2-10 after that year, he went 5-5 in a fricked up COVID season with an all-SEC schedule (no cupcakes), he lost his starting QB in the 2nd game and had to play out the rest of that season with a revolving door of true freshmen QBs. And now we know he had to it with a ton of racial tension and division having been sewn behind his back. Then he gets fired in October of the next year. After a WIN.

This is not to say Les or Orgeron shouldn’t have been fired—they should have. But you’re naive if you don’t think other coaches—and their agents—weren’t paying attention. “I can be the most successful coach in program history and be unceremoniously fired 4 games into a season?” “I can win a BCS bowl 1 year, coach the greatest team in the history of the sport the next, and be shitcanned after a win less than 2 years later?” Not a lot of job security and it almost certainly led to having to give out that crazy contract to Kelly. He wasn’t coming for less. Neither was any other coach of that caliber.

And as unlikable as he was, and as unacceptable as it was that he couldn’t put together a complete football team in his 3 1/2 years here, he still went 10-4, 10-3, 9-4, and 5-3, won the West, and had only the 3rd Heisman Trophy winner in program history in his short tenure. I’m fine with him being fired—I think we should have waited until after the season, but whatever—but that resume usually doesn’t get coaches fired that quickly.

But it’s a different era in college football. Schools aren’t as patient. However, the flip side of that, is that in this new era—where Indiana is ranked #2 in the country and just gave their 64-year-old HC one of the biggest contracts in the history of the sport halfway through his 2nd season, where Vanderbilt is a legit top 10 team going into November, where Texas A&M is undefeated and ranked #3, Texas Tech is pouring as many resources into their program as any school in the country, Ole Miss may be the best team in the SEC even after adding blue bloods in Texas and Oklahoma, etc… it is going to be harder than ever to poach coaches from schools that historically were never able to hold onto good ones for longer than a few good seasons. Because every school thinks it can win and is putting in the resources to do so.

Tl;dr—Firing Kelly and Woodward when we did and the way we did, is likely going to force us into hiring a coach and giving him another huge contract—the main reason people wanted them fired in the 1st place. And there’s no guarantee their replacements will be any better. Odds are probably higher they will be worse. Or their results will be. Parity makes it easier to be good, but also harder to be great.

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Regardless you shouldn’t mix sports and politics when voting

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When a poorly performing politician inserts himself into sports…

Sports fans will insert themselves on Election Day.

From the Omar the Tiger fiasco, to the Charlie Kirk statue performative BS (regardless of your stance on Kirk, this makes zero sense), to the firing of Woodward and insertion of himself so visibly into the coaching change…it’s all just been a bad attempt at trying to score cheap political points while making LSU (and Louisiana) look like most of the country already think we are.

None of it helps LSU in the least. Landry is in it for Landry.

That’s what folks will consider.

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but because he’s disrupting a system that desperately needed shaking up.

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where is the concern for the $50 million in taxpayer money ULL threw away on their sports programs?

It’s like watching deleted scenes from “Oh brother, where art thou?”.

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The real friction here isn’t about performance — it’s about politics. Landry is a Republican challenging the long-standing political habits in this state, and it’s exposing how ineffective the old approach has been.

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The rest of the country thinks its a clown show and he's Bozo

Landry is an oblivious jackass. He's the guy who thought bringing a random tiger on the field was a great idea.

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Well maybe this means we get Kirby Smart?

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As governor?