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Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:07 am to OGTiger
I realize times are different. The SEC will do whatever it can to help AlaBama. BUT, does anyone remember a coach named Ray Perkins?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:11 am to OGTiger
This is why I think it’ll be Norvell. First, he has a pretty low buyout, especially compared to Lanning. But more importantly, I’m not sure if the market is as available to Alabama as many might think, because the pressure/expectations of directly following Saban are going to be astronomical. Heaven help the new guy if he doesn’t win a national championship and drops a game to Auburn during his first three seasons. And I think coaches know that.
And with that in mind… I think Norvell knows/recognizes FSU is in flux with the ACC. He just saw his undefeated team get left out for that same 1-loss Bama program. And while the blowout to UGA might cause him to pause when joining a conference foe of theirs, I think he’d look at it more like, “I’ll never win a championship at FSU/ACC. I could at Bama/SEC.”
Lanning probably doesn’t think that way about his current program, especially as they join the B1G. Plus the huge buyout. So I’m not surprised it sounds like he’s not taking it.
And with that in mind… I think Norvell knows/recognizes FSU is in flux with the ACC. He just saw his undefeated team get left out for that same 1-loss Bama program. And while the blowout to UGA might cause him to pause when joining a conference foe of theirs, I think he’d look at it more like, “I’ll never win a championship at FSU/ACC. I could at Bama/SEC.”
Lanning probably doesn’t think that way about his current program, especially as they join the B1G. Plus the huge buyout. So I’m not surprised it sounds like he’s not taking it.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:20 am to Lsuhoohoo
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A roster that's probably the most talented in the country
Typically when a job like this opens up its because they're in a down cycle. An Alabama with a loaded roster, #2 recruiting class coming off a 12-2 season is the opportunity of a career for a coach. Why wouldn't an elite coach take it?
And many of the key pieces of that roster could immediately decide to go elsewhere. The signed to play for a coach with 7 national championship rings. NO replacement, no matter who it is, will be able to match that.
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Why wouldn't an elite coach take it?
Because he doesn't need to. If he's "elite", he's already proven he can be elite at his current school. He doesn't need to go to Alabama to become "elite". A job where "elite" to everyone else in the country would fall well short of his predecessor.
Alabama didn't make Saban great. Saban made Alabama great. So there is no guarantee the next guy could come in and pick up where Saban left off. And if/when he couldn't the fans/boosters would be demanding he be fired within a few years.
I suspect you are going to see more of a Les Miles hire. A guy who has had some degree of success at a "lesser" program, but knows he doesn't really have the resources to be a championship contender there. That said, the advent of the 12 team playoff may change that. Plus, one of the biggest hurdles to championship success is now GONE. Every coach at a solid program wakes up today saying the field just became more open. They knew, every year, without fail, Alabama was going to be in the hunt for a championship and was a hurdle you likely had to get over at some point en route to a championship. That's no longer the case.
Alabama is now weaker. Ohio St seems to remain flawed. Clemson is declining. If Harbaugh leaves, the Big 10 becomes much more than a two horse race. Really, Georgia now sits as the "impenetrable" wall.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:27 am to Buckeye Fan 19
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This is why I think it’ll be Norvell. First, he has a pretty low buyout, especially compared to Lanning. But more importantly, I’m not sure if the market is as available to Alabama as many might think, because the pressure/expectations of directly following Saban are going to be astronomical. Heaven help the new guy if he doesn’t win a national championship and drops a game to Auburn during his first three seasons. And I think coaches know that.
And with that in mind… I think Norvell knows/recognizes FSU is in flux with the ACC. He just saw his undefeated team get left out for that same 1-loss Bama program. And while the blowout to UGA might cause him to pause when joining a conference foe of theirs, I think he’d look at it more like, “I’ll never win a championship at FSU/ACC. I could at Bama/SEC.”
I think you are right.
He won't be Alabama's first choice. Hell, he may not be their 5th or 6th choice. But with college football trending to being, essentially, a two conference league, he likely sees the writing on the wall at FSU.
He recruits the same landscape as Alabama. He had a very talented team this year that if not for awful luck at the end may have played for a championship. He will, likely, never be as much "in demand" as he is now. And he probably feels he'd have a better chance to replicate this year's success at Alabama than he does at FSU as the financial divide between the Big 10/SEC and everyone else grows wider.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:29 am to TheSearch
quote:Then shouldn’t they stay at the job they are at and establish that program instead of running to something built for you?
Because they aren't baby back bi**hes.
Bama was Saban. Saban would have dominated at Texas, at Oregon, at FSU, at Washington
Kirby proved that at UGA. No titles in 40 years and then he wins 2 back to back. It’s the coach when you are at a major p5 school . Not the “mystique” of the program. Period
Saban would have had a shite ton of titles at all of the above places. If you are truly an elite coach, you can have big success there. Why leave?
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:34 am to Volvagia
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It’s the top 6 ranked conference champions, and 6 at large bids.
They changed it to 5 ranked conference champions for the upcoming season. I could see that number going down to 4 soon, too.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:37 am to OGTiger
If I was a big-time coach, the only way I'd jet for Bama is if I was at a C level program where it's obvious you would never have a chance at a championship. Think Vandy, Kentucky, Purdue, Kansas, Indiana, Wake Forest, Syracuse Cal, etc.
The issue here is almost zero chance Bama even considers a coach from any of these schools.
The issue here is almost zero chance Bama even considers a coach from any of these schools.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:39 am to Epic Cajun
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With only nine full major college football conferences in place for next season — and one fewer Power Five conference than when expansion was first agreed upon — the CFP management committee agreed to recommend changing the original 6-6 format to a 5-7 model.
Under the current model, this year would have been:
SEC-6
Big 10-5
Acc-1
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:42 am to OGTiger
They should probably call Drink up in Mizzou.
I don't know why a coach at a top ~8 school would choose to leave to go to Alabama with the 12 team playoff coming up, unless your school refuses to pay you.
I don't know why a coach at a top ~8 school would choose to leave to go to Alabama with the 12 team playoff coming up, unless your school refuses to pay you.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:45 am to momentoftruth87
Lane won’t be fired for going 10-2 every year. At bama he will
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