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Why Fickell?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:38 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:38 am
Luke Fickell may end up being a great coach, but based on his competition and record I question why he is thought of as a 'cant miss' ..
I think he should obviously be considered, but I do not see where he blows away the competition.
2016 w OSU 6-7 (beat 2 ranked team: IL, WI)
2017 4-8
2018 11-2 (L to Temple, UCF and no ranked wins)
2019 11-3 (L to OSU and Memphis twice, no ranked wins)
2020 9-1 (L to Georgia and 2 ranked wins: SMU, Tulsa)
2021 6-0 (1 ranked win vs ND)
*based on final rankings.
7-12 vs. ranked teams (ranked at the time of the game)..after the ND win this year, the next best win at cincy is UCF at 11.
Check out their schedule, fact they are ranked 2 is a joke. Their second and last game vs a ranked opponent is SMU.
I think he should obviously be considered, but I do not see where he blows away the competition.
2016 w OSU 6-7 (beat 2 ranked team: IL, WI)
2017 4-8
2018 11-2 (L to Temple, UCF and no ranked wins)
2019 11-3 (L to OSU and Memphis twice, no ranked wins)
2020 9-1 (L to Georgia and 2 ranked wins: SMU, Tulsa)
2021 6-0 (1 ranked win vs ND)
*based on final rankings.
7-12 vs. ranked teams (ranked at the time of the game)..after the ND win this year, the next best win at cincy is UCF at 11.
Check out their schedule, fact they are ranked 2 is a joke. Their second and last game vs a ranked opponent is SMU.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:41 am
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:41 am to geauxdroddz
He's trended up every year. Went from fourth in his conference to third to the conference championship to winning the conference. This season he's undefeated. 2-1 in bowl games and a 41-14 record at Cincy.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:45 am to Damone
The Ohio State year means nothing.
Tressel was fired 3 months before the opener and a bunch of starters were kicked off of the team due to tattoogate (including starting qb pryor).
He was handed a depleted roster and a true freshman qb 3 months before the opener.
Cincinnati was a dumpster fire when he arrived and he has more than turned it around.
Tressel was fired 3 months before the opener and a bunch of starters were kicked off of the team due to tattoogate (including starting qb pryor).
He was handed a depleted roster and a true freshman qb 3 months before the opener.
Cincinnati was a dumpster fire when he arrived and he has more than turned it around.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:46 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:49 am to geauxdroddz
Yes, he has turned Cinci around, but if you have seen them play in the last 2 years, that is a team that's incredibly disciplined. They execute at a high level, play very fast, and are always prepared.
Simply put, he seems to maximize his talent.
Simply put, he seems to maximize his talent.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:50 am to geauxdroddz
What exactly is the problem with his resume compared to other viable candidates?
Considering we settled on Ed fricking Orgeron last time, and still won a national championship, I can't believe we have people nitpicking records like Fickell's.
Considering we settled on Ed fricking Orgeron last time, and still won a national championship, I can't believe we have people nitpicking records like Fickell's.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:54 am to geauxdroddz
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2017 4-8
2018 11-2 (L to Temple, UCF and no ranked wins)
2019 11-3 (L to OSU and Memphis twice, no ranked wins)
2020 9-1 (L to Georgia and 2 ranked wins: SMU, Tulsa)
2021 6-0 (1 ranked win vs ND)
This is literally just showing continued progression. And the L to Georgia was a last second FG.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:56 am to HamBone14
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:00 pm to nvasil1
quote:
What exactly is the problem with his resume compared to other viable candidates?
If this is a real question, I said he should be considered.. I am referring the the 'cant miss' mantra.
He has a great record against bad teams with low expectations, doesn't mean he will be great against great teams with the highest expectations.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:04 pm to geauxdroddz
Because he coa he's at a school that traditionally been a bad team with low expectations. Other than Brian Kelly building them and his coattails rider in butch jones....they have not been good.
Same thing with Napier, he is playing against teams on his level. Stfu about competition.
They got to be more talented than the teams around them because fickle recruited and built them. He wasn't handed it.
Same thing with Napier, he is playing against teams on his level. Stfu about competition.
They got to be more talented than the teams around them because fickle recruited and built them. He wasn't handed it.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:08 pm to lsu777
Bottom line - he is not a HR (cant miss hire) by any imagination.
Hes similar to the Mike Norvell building up Memphis...who is now at FSU. I do not see the separation from a Napier for example.
Hes similar to the Mike Norvell building up Memphis...who is now at FSU. I do not see the separation from a Napier for example.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:15 pm to geauxdroddz
To be honest, with the exception of 2016, all the evidence you've cited points to him being a can't miss. Takes Cincinnati from 4-8 to playoff contender... Not much more to be said. He doesn't have many ranked wins because he doesn't play many ranked teams. He nearly beat Georgia last year with less than half the talent.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:17 pm to oracle of joemaha
quote:
The Ohio State year means nothing.
Tressel was fired 3 months before the opener and a bunch of starters were kicked off of the team due to tattoogate (including starting qb pryor).
You mean Meyer?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:19 pm to Powerman
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:19 pm to geauxdroddz
quote:
Hes similar to the Mike Norvell building up Memphis...who is now at FSU. I do not see the separation from a Napier for example.
Norvell took over a pretty strong Memphis team from Fuentes
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:20 pm to Powerman
quote:
The Ohio State year means nothing.
Tressel was fired 3 months before the opener and a bunch of starters were kicked off of the team due to tattoogate (including starting qb pryor).
You mean Meyer?
No, Tressel.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:20 pm to geauxdroddz
Mike Norvell didn't build Memphis. He was handed a built program.
That's like saying urban Meyer at Utah is similar to Mike norvall. So stupid
That's like saying urban Meyer at Utah is similar to Mike norvall. So stupid
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:26 pm to geauxdroddz
quote:
He has a great record against bad teams with low expectations
Define "bad teams". Houston, UCF, and Memphis have all made NY6 bowls out of the AAC in recent years.
Wouldn't his talent and success be relative to the rest of the league he's playing in? It's not like Cincinnati football is Gonzaga basketball, bulldozing the conference every year.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:27 pm to oracle of joemaha
quote:
The Ohio State year means nothing.
Tressel was fired 3 months before the opener and a bunch of starters were kicked off of the team due to tattoogate (including starting qb pryor).
He was handed a depleted roster and a true freshman qb 3 months before the opener.
Cincinnati was a dumpster fire when he arrived and he has more than turned it around.
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:28 pm to nvasil1
Fickell is 2-0 against UCLA and 1-0 against top 10 Notre Dame.
Southern Cal is envious.
Southern Cal is envious.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:33 pm to geauxdroddz
quote:
Hes similar to the Mike Norvell building up Memphis...
Norvell did not build up Memphis. Fuentes did after Larry Porter buried it 6 feet under.
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