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re: What destroyed Ole Rocky Top
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:23 am to Placebeaux
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:23 am to Placebeaux
I'm not exactly sure you can pin point it on one single thing.
2001 SECCG started the slippery slope from an elite program to just very good. I still believe Kiffin was the right hire following Phil and no one saw the USC job opening up that quickly.
Hiring Dooley instead of riding out an interim for one season was just catastrophic in retrospect. Dooley ran the program so badly into the ground that it was going to be a massive rebuild for whoever took over. Not many coaches wanted to deal with that, which is how we wound up with Butch.
The athletic department has become nothing more than a puppet show with the Haslams controlling everything since Doug Dickey retired in 2002. That's a major part of why we are where we are now and they have missed most of the blame until just recently.
I will never blame this fan base for any of this crap. They have packed in 100k every Saturday to watch an atrocious product for a decade now. They are infallible in my eyes
2001 SECCG started the slippery slope from an elite program to just very good. I still believe Kiffin was the right hire following Phil and no one saw the USC job opening up that quickly.
Hiring Dooley instead of riding out an interim for one season was just catastrophic in retrospect. Dooley ran the program so badly into the ground that it was going to be a massive rebuild for whoever took over. Not many coaches wanted to deal with that, which is how we wound up with Butch.
The athletic department has become nothing more than a puppet show with the Haslams controlling everything since Doug Dickey retired in 2002. That's a major part of why we are where we are now and they have missed most of the blame until just recently.
I will never blame this fan base for any of this crap. They have packed in 100k every Saturday to watch an atrocious product for a decade now. They are infallible in my eyes
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:24 am to Placebeaux
B) Firing Fulmer too soon at 58
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:24 am to Chad504boy
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one of the worst tiger losses i've experienced.
brutal, especially considering the circumstances.
I remember shitty Fulmer's smirk after the game praising Clausen.
Terrible loss.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:26 am to David Ricky
I don't think its any of the things listed. I think it has more to do with the rise of other programs in the surrounding areas. UT used to be able to pluck kids from here and all along the SE. Saban closing the Louisiana border along with other ACC and SEC schools getting better hurt their ability to do that, with not enough in state talent to lean on.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:31 am to BilJ
Tennessee's instate talent has exploded in the past few years and it's not all in Memphis anymore. Nashville and the surrounding area in the midstate has become a hotbed of football talent.
Go look at 247's TN player rankings then compare to Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina
Go look at 247's TN player rankings then compare to Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:34 am to BilJ
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man....you guys still just don't get it, do you?
No you don't get it. LSU had the money they offered the money and nobody wanted the job. they took one look at what was here and what they had to work with and they ran.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:35 am to Placebeaux
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No you don't get it. LSU had the money they offered the money and nobody wanted the job. they took one look at what was here and what they had to work with and they ran.
You gotta love these guys huh J?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:35 am to CBandits82
Who would you have hired???
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:38 am to Placebeaux
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Who would you have hired??
How many threads have already covered this over the last year?
This one is about UT.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:39 am to Placebeaux
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No you don't get it. LSU had the money they offered the money and nobody wanted the job. they took one look at what was here and what they had to work with and they ran.
what in the frick are you talking about man? Are you just making shite up at this point?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:40 am to CBandits82
O....the only man in America that wanted the LSU job
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:41 am to Placebeaux
I, but mostly H.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:42 am to Placebeaux
2001 SEC Championship is correct answer
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:43 am to Placebeaux
The 2001 SEC championship game was their downfall. They have never been the same since. With a Tenn win over LSU, who they already beat in the regular season, Tenn would go on to play Miami in the BCS national championship game. LSU upset Tenn in the SEC championship game and the Tenn program started to decline from that point on.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:43 am to Placebeaux
Law of averages got them. I've lived in Ark. since '83 and I think I can honestly say all teams in the SEC has seen some dismal times during that stretch.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:44 am to Placebeaux
Clay Travis
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:47 am to BilJ
Still not an answer but I do agree this is about Tennessee, LSU already made the best hire. Let's move on.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:54 am to Placebeaux
The correct answer is Jim Haslam
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:14 pm to Placebeaux
(J) Phillip Fulmer
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:21 pm to HarryBalzack
Lol at those wanting be responsible cause of the 2001 game.
The downfall was Fulmer, he could never really get that offense back like it was under Cut. That started a slide and fans wanted him ran him off and finally got their wish. The way they treated Fulmer is what landed them with Lane and they have been in this position of not being able to get a decent coach since.
Had they found a way to transition Fulmer out under better terms, they may have landed themselves a better coach than the last few.
Lane train staying may have really torpedoed them worse, he was making them head for some serious sanctions.
The downfall was Fulmer, he could never really get that offense back like it was under Cut. That started a slide and fans wanted him ran him off and finally got their wish. The way they treated Fulmer is what landed them with Lane and they have been in this position of not being able to get a decent coach since.
Had they found a way to transition Fulmer out under better terms, they may have landed themselves a better coach than the last few.
Lane train staying may have really torpedoed them worse, he was making them head for some serious sanctions.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 12:25 pm
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