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What are the pros of Napier if we can't get Riley or Aranda?

Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:04 pm
Posted by AlldayTiger
Member since Nov 2021
812 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:04 pm
I haven't done much research on him, but from what I've heard is if he is saying he wants to be here, that is what I like to hear. Someone who wants to be at a specific place. What do y'all think about him? Pros and cons and stuff.
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
7440 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:06 pm to
Unproven in terms of being the head coach of a major football program. Let’s just say the ceiling is very high but the floor is very low. Napier might be the biggest gamble of all the candidates.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Mr Clean
Pit Bull Paradise
Member since Aug 2006
49158 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:06 pm to
Well, I like him
Posted by Ocardowin
Member since Dec 2011
1345 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:08 pm to
I don't think the floor is as low as some people think.

He's an excellent, excellent recruiter. That's enough to win most games.

He's also a better x's and o's coach than either of the previous two we had.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7897 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:09 pm to
If we can’t get Aranda then that would be a complete embarrassment.

Napier would be fine I’m sure but there is risk with him.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21983 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:10 pm to
He's likeable, has program humming four years into stint at ULL, learned from Saban, knows LSU's recruiting area well, offense-minded, can start in 10 days
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21983 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

Unproven in terms of being the head coach of a major football program.
would you say the same of Smart when UGA hired him, or Fisher when FSU hired him, or Dabo when Clemson hired him, or even Urban Meyer when Florida hired him?
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 12:12 pm
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:12 pm to
Here's 2 things you need to know:
-An asst. coach on Bama staff was once asked about the difference between Saban/Napier's coaching style. His answer...one's offense and one's defense. That's about as strong as it gets from a comparison standpoint.
-A Bama grad I work with who is very tied to Bama football told me that Napier at LSU scares him more than the other names he's hearing float around.

Is it risky? Yes. Is he worth it? Not sure. Do "football" people think he's going to be a big-time coach in P5 sooner than later? Yes
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24328 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:15 pm to
How do you know there aren’t 25 other coaches before him? He is Tier 3-
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
7440 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

would you say the same of Smart when UGA hired him, or Fisher when FSU hired him, or Dabo when Clemson hired him, or even Urban Meyer when Florida hired him?


Yes I would have. I’m not saying Napier would be a bad hire. I’m just saying it’s high risk high reward that’s all. He’s unproven that’s a fact. There’s been a lot of unproven coaches who haven’t panned out like the coach’s you just mentioned.
Posted by rphtiger
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
206 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

would you say the same of Smart when UGA hired him, or Fisher when FSU hired him, or Dabo when Clemson hired him, or even Urban Meyer when Florida hired him?


Chicken is correct!
Posted by Ptguru21
Member since Nov 2015
630 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:24 pm to
NONE
Posted by luciouslou
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2017
6698 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

25 other coaches before him? He is Tier 3-




Come on man. This man is in the mix.
He may not be the number one choice but hes up there on that list
Posted by MEd LSU
Member since Dec 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:31 pm to
How do you know Napier is tier 3-
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24328 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

would you say the same of Smart when UGA hired him, or Fisher when FSU hired him, or Dabo when Clemson hired him, or even Urban Meyer when Florida hired him?


Only Dabo. Everyone else on that list was much more proven and WTF URBAN WAS A MONSTER BEFORE UF.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Napier would be fine I’m sure but there is risk with him.



There is risk with Aranda as well. Napier has much more HC experience than Aranda and is a better recruiter. But it is not what you or I think that matters, it is what Woodward thinks and he apparently possibly thinks that Aranda is the higher risk of the two according to sources on this forum.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21983 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Tiger1988
I was responding to "Unproven in terms of being the head coach of a major football program."

None of those guys listed were proven head coaches of a major football program before they were hired to their respective schools...FACT!
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:53 pm to
tProcess?
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24328 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

How do you know Napier is tier 3-

Because of where he coaches, how poorly he has performed this season after allegedly having the number 1 recruiting class 3 years in a row in the Sun Belt, and the other P5 at lesser programs but are successful. You start by HC at elite programs. Then to HCs at successful lower tiers P5’s like Baylor, ISU, MSU, ISU, Ole Piss, etc. then you move to Elite HCs at non-p5’s. Also, somewhere in there are elite The last one one is Tier 3.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27542 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:56 pm to
PROs:
Enthusiastic recruiter
Strong offensive mind
Familiarity with the area
Focused on program building
One of us

CONs:
Lack of P5 experience
Not prepared for politics of the LSU job
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