- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
0
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:02 am to RightHook
Schools across the country were not lineing up for the third stooge "Curly" Hallman.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:04 am to More&Les
I think he's more like the guy we didn't hire after Ansparger because he "didn't have the resume". I hope we don't make that mistake again.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:05 am to Adajax
quote:
I think he's more like the guy we didn't hire after Ansparger because he "didn't have the resume". I hope we don't make that mistake again.
That might be the biggest mistake in LSU history.
That would have been a 10-12 year stretch of excellence.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:06 am to drizztiger
Curly was a failure and I can see your point in that comparison, but Bo never coached a down and we will never know how that would have turned out. Can't see how he is relevant in this conversation.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 7:07 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:08 am to More&Les
H&H ,not the lure the coaches, have one thing in common they garnered a lot of attention for beating Florida State. But I'll alaways remember Joe Deans in that string music tone about the advice the Cowboys Gil Brandt gave him " hire Curley Hallman and never look back" 
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:08 am to drizztiger
quote:
But your real point is hiring X == unknown results. And to that I call bull shite because it's true for everyone, everything. LSU could pull Saban from Bama and we go 2-10. There are no guarantees.
Yes, there is risk in every hire. Bo Rein was the best hire out there at the time and in my heart I know he would have been successful. Hallman WAS a hot commodity and he WAS a train wreck.
I think Herman is much more proven than Hallman, I think he's a much better 'commodity' than Hallman ever was. He's more like Urban Myer when Florida hired him or like Bo in 1979.
I didn't post this to be down on Herman, just for a little historical perspective.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 7:13 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:08 am to drizztiger
quote:
But when you're penny pinching and counting $1 black
Too much money involved these days. Going cheap on a shitty coach will wind up costing way more than you save.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:10 am to More&Les
quote:I will allow.
I think TH is more akin to us hiring Bo and hopefully this time he will live a long and prosperous life.
Bo Rein is such and unknown and untapped entity that IMO you have to place him in that we almost had a Spurrier mindset. We'll never know for real, but I'll respect the man that way.
And God Bless Jerry Stovall for stepping into a bad situation and doing his best. Any figs on here that want to disparage Stovall's HC tenure at LSU, I will fight your arse.
TH may be a flash in the pan, dunno. Anyone that says they know for sure is mistaken. My POV is you hire the resume, the talent.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:12 am to drizztiger
quote:
Bo Rein is such and unknown and untapped entity that IMO you have to place him in that we almost had a Spurrier mindset. We'll never know for real, but I'll respect the man that way.
And God Bless Jerry Stovall for stepping into a bad situation and doing his best. Any figs on here that want to disparage Stovall's HC tenure at LSU, I will fight your arse.
TH may be a flash in the pan, dunno. Anyone that says they know for sure is mistaken. My POV is you hire the resume, the talent.
All this
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:16 am to dude123
quote:OP stated Bo. I think you replied to wrong poster.
Bo never coached a down and we will never know how that would have turned out. Can't see how he is relevant in this conversation.
For me, I don't equate too much to Herman = x, or Jimbo = y. There was an intrinsic reason LSU wasn't a major player and it had less to do with HC than it had to do with AD.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:22 am to More&Les
quote:I'm with you on this 100%.
Yes, there is risk in every hire. Bo Rein was the best hire out there at the time and in my heart I know he would have been successful. Hallman WAS a hot commodity and he WAS a train wreck.
I think Herman is much more proven than Hallman, I think he's a much better 'commodity' than Hallman ever was. He's more like Urban Myer when Florida hired him or like Bo in 1979.
I didn't post this to be down on Herman, just for a little historical perspective.
I guess my point is you don't question a TH hire because maybe it doesn't work out. You continue to hire the best talent over and over and IT WILL WORK OUT.
Ppl here make fun of UF and Foley, but holy shite man, bring in what you think is best, and it it doesn't move on. Spurrier to Zook to CUM to Will to Mc.
I hope you get that.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 8:53 am to drizztiger
quote:
I guess my point is you don't question a TH hire because maybe it doesn't work out
I'm not questioning the TH hire. Short of Saban, who is not available, I think he's the best hire out there and I HOPE we get it done.
I hope you get that.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:07 am to More&Les
I'd also be thrilled if we get Herman, but the OP has a valid point. When a school hires a coach with only a couple years experience, there's a risk the coach just got "hot" at the right time with the good fortune of some great players.
Another example here in Atlanta was Bill Lewis at Georgia Tech about 20 years ago. He came from East Carolina as a hot young coach but had the good fortune of having an NFL QB and an NFL linebacker that led them to an 11-1 season. Then Lewis was horrific at Tech.
So although I really believe Herman is the real deal, the risk DOES exist.
Another example here in Atlanta was Bill Lewis at Georgia Tech about 20 years ago. He came from East Carolina as a hot young coach but had the good fortune of having an NFL QB and an NFL linebacker that led them to an 11-1 season. Then Lewis was horrific at Tech.
So although I really believe Herman is the real deal, the risk DOES exist.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:09 am to DanglingFury
Sumlin is an Aor Raid guy who never had s good defense.
Herman is a power spread guy who strives to also have a good defense.
Herman is a power spread guy who strives to also have a good defense.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:11 am to More&Les
quote:
Bo Rein in 1980
I was a baby when this happened, but after watching the ESPN documentary about his death, I'm 100% convinced he would have won a national championship at LSU.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:51 am to More&Les
Rein? I agree that he was a hot commodity.
Hallman? He was not a hot commodity. He was simply a serviceable (at the time) coach who had some success with Favre as his QB. None of the big schools were targeting him as their potential coach.
Hallman? He was not a hot commodity. He was simply a serviceable (at the time) coach who had some success with Favre as his QB. None of the big schools were targeting him as their potential coach.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:54 am to More&Les
You just compared curly hallman to tom herman. Their last names end in H. That's basically where the similarities end.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:04 am to More&Les
You just compared Tom Herman to Curley Hallman lmfao oh this was it the perfect post the one you can keep and every once in awhile just mass post to your friends to get a huge laugh from.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:42 pm to Madking
quote:
You just compared Tom Herman to Curley Hallman lmfao oh this was it the perfect post the one you can keep and every once in awhile just mass post to your friends to get a huge laugh from.
Reading comprehension is hard I guess...
Page 2 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News