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re: We almost lost to North Carolina, WV, TN and I remember....
Posted on 1/8/11 at 8:58 pm to DocBugbear
Posted on 1/8/11 at 8:58 pm to DocBugbear
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Flat out wrong!
In what sense?
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 8:59 pm to Tim
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We almost lost to North Carolina, WV, TN and I remember....
Let's think back to the Ole Piss game a year ago, everyone wanted him gone, nothing has changed as far as clock management...let him have that happen again next year half way through and we'll all be screaming, "We should have let Michigan have him"...this may be a blessing
If he does this at Michigan he will get fired before Tbob snaps it.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:06 pm to BallHog
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In what sense?
There are guys that want to go to LSU because they are the state team. That's enough to get us to the top 20 in recruiting. But if you don't have a guy bringing in people from out of state and fending off coaches from other schools on those in state guys, we won't be sniffing the top 5 in recruiting. If you want to win a NC you've got to stay in the top 5 in recruiting.
EDIT: If you don't want to take my word for it, ask on the recruiting board and be ready to duck.
This post was edited on 1/8/11 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:09 pm to DocBugbear
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There are guys that want to go to LSU because they are the state team. That's enough to get us to the top 20 in recruiting. But if you don't have a guy bringing in people from out of state and fending off coaches from other schools on those in state guys, we won't be sniffing the top 5 in recruiting. If you want to win a NC you've got to stay in the top 5 in recruiting.
Is this something that Miles is mostly responsible for doing? What is going to change if someone else takes the reigns, besides possibly personnel in the recruiting department?
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:13 pm to Tim
Losing Les Miles isn't the end of the world.
Losing Les Miles on January 10 with less than 1 month until signing day for the best crop of in state talent in a decade, plus an extremely small pool of attainable coaches to replace him, is.
Losing Les Miles on January 10 with less than 1 month until signing day for the best crop of in state talent in a decade, plus an extremely small pool of attainable coaches to replace him, is.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:13 pm to BallHog
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Is this something that Miles is mostly responsible for doing?
Yes. The recruits and their families trust Les. There are a lot of people that do the selling, but they trust that Les means it when he says he'll take care of them, and that seals the deal.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:15 pm to DocBugbear
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Yes. The recruits and their families trust Les. There are a lot of people that do the selling, but they trust that Les means it when he says he'll take care of them, and that seals the deal.
To be totally fair, perhaps I'm not considering the perception of Les amongst recruits. If I were a recruit, I honestly would not want to be a member of a Les Miles football team. However, that's likely vastly different than the way that ACTUAL recruits view him.
I still believe LSU has the recruiting cachet accumulated from having big stars and national attention to not miss a beat IF we make the right hire.
This post was edited on 1/8/11 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:21 pm to Tim
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Let's think back to the Ole Piss game a year ago, everyone wanted him gone, nothing has changed as far as clock management...let him have that happen again next year half way through and we'll all be screaming, "We should have let Michigan have him"...this may be a blessing
Lets think back to Lesticles testicles...of the 2007 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON!!!!
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:22 pm to LAfootballDude
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Lets think back to Lesticles testicles...of the 2007 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON!!!!
We lost 2 games that year we shouldn't have lost, one of them on a 4th and 10 against Ar-Kansas, not to mention, 1 stop and we lose to Florida, a last minute pass by Flynn to beat Auburn...we could have lost 4 games that year, easy...
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:27 pm to Tim
My fear is if Miles goes, the new guy doesn't keep Frank Wilson and he goes to an SEC West school.
So much for the above posters comment about LSU recruiting itself, especially NOLA kids.
So much for the above posters comment about LSU recruiting itself, especially NOLA kids.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:27 pm to BallHog
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To be totally fair, perhaps I'm not considering the perception of Les amongst recruits.
Don't think of it from the standpoint of a recruit. Think of it from the standpoint of the recruit's parents. Most aren't expecting an NFL career. They want someone that will take care of their kids and make sure they get a degree.
Who would you rather your kid play for? Miles or Saban?
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:28 pm to Tim
BUT...we didn't!!
Point is ... You make decisions like that and they pay off... Sometimes they don't! I like going down swinging... I like playing to win not to lose, I like les miles, the winner, the gambler and the class act...
You like to play armchair quarterback and spoiled bratt!
Point is ... You make decisions like that and they pay off... Sometimes they don't! I like going down swinging... I like playing to win not to lose, I like les miles, the winner, the gambler and the class act...
You like to play armchair quarterback and spoiled bratt!
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:30 pm to Tim
Tim, but we didn't and you can go through any coaches season and see how they could have lost more games.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:33 pm to DocBugbear
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Don't think of it from the standpoint of a recruit. Think of it from the standpoint of the recruit's parents. Most aren't expecting an NFL career. They want someone that will take care of their kids and make sure they get a degree.
Who would you rather your kid play for? Miles or Saban?
The recruits that tip these classes in favor of one team or another are the ones with legitimate NFL prospects, IMO.
So, to answer your question: if my kid had legitimate NFL prospects, I'm picking Saban yesterday. His staff has proven that they can develop players and improve their prospects for future football employment.
If my kid is somewhat marginal, I'm signing him up for the Miles program. I would trust Miles to make sure he at least had some semblance of an education.
So that begs the question, who are we talking about here?
This post was edited on 1/8/11 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:36 pm to Tubedog13
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So much for the above posters comment about LSU recruiting itself, especially NOLA kids.
You got that right. Those of us that have been around for a while remember when the best LA players left the state. LSU does not recruit itself.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:40 pm to MontanaTiger
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You got that right. Those of us that have been around for a while remember when the best LA players left the state. LSU does not recruit itself.
I'm not unwilling to admit I'm wrong, but I think you guys are really underestimating the fact that, institutionally, LSU football is in its "Golden Age." When has the program had this kind of sustained success over a decade-long period?
I just think we're talking about a different animal now. "Long enough" doesn't mean the same thing now as it once did.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:42 pm to BallHog
You aren't a parent, are you? Parents are looking at the fall back position if the football "thing" doesn't work out. They assume that if the kid is good enough, he'll play in the NFL and has just as good a chance of doing it coming out of LSU as he does coming out of Alabama.
And on a side note, I was talking to a guy last night who has a kid being recruited. He said they'd been visited by the assistant coaches from a number of schools. From that they narrowed it down to a few schools. The head coaches visits determined where he was headed.
EDIT: Like I said, ask the guys on the RB. There are some pretty experienced people on there. If you tell the that LSU sells itself they'll laugh at you. No school sells itself. It's too competitive now.
And on a side note, I was talking to a guy last night who has a kid being recruited. He said they'd been visited by the assistant coaches from a number of schools. From that they narrowed it down to a few schools. The head coaches visits determined where he was headed.
EDIT: Like I said, ask the guys on the RB. There are some pretty experienced people on there. If you tell the that LSU sells itself they'll laugh at you. No school sells itself. It's too competitive now.
This post was edited on 1/8/11 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:48 pm to DocBugbear
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You aren't a parent, are you? Parents are looking at the fall back position if the football "thing" doesn't work out. They assume that if the kid is good enough, he'll play in the NFL and has just as good a chance of doing it coming out of LSU as he does coming out of Alabama.
And on a side note, I was talking to a guy last night who has a kid being recruited. He said they'd been visited by the assistant coaches from a number of schools. From that they narrowed it down to a few schools. The head coaches visits determined where he was headed.
I'm not going to disagree with your point, but I just can't see where Miles does something in this regard that a Malzahn/Patterson couldn't. Yea, Pelini is a different story, but just hold your prayer beads for that one.
I also find it sort of incredible that the parents' inclinations are so important. Not incredible as in unbelievable, just odd.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:50 pm to MontanaTiger
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Those of us that have been around for a while remember when the best LA players left the state
When I was a kid going to LSU games, I remember watching on TV guys like Ike Hilliard, Pat Riley, Cordell Stewart, Warrick Dunn, etc. If LSU was successful back then, none of those guys would have left the state. Hell, before Saban got things going, even as recent as 10 years ago, Shyrone Carey signed with Tennessee.
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:52 pm to BallHog
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Tim, but we didn't and you can go through any coaches season and see how they could have lost more games.
All I'm saying is everyone wanted him gone last year after Ole Piss debacle...We all wanted him gone after Tn. this year, even though we won...it will happen again in the future...we should thank him for the wins, regardless of whether they were lucky or not, and move forward...End of an era, perhaps the future holds something even better...IDK? Let's not whine about Les like we did Saban for...well, some people are still whining about Saban!!
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