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Was Herman the problem or is UT the problem

Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:01 pm
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
4205 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:01 pm
He was a really good coach then became mediocre at UT last year. That 2019 game in Austin was scary. I felt like we couldn’t stop them at times
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:02 pm to
He lost games he shouldn’t have at Houston. I don’t know where the really good coach part comes in.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5628 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:02 pm to
Little of both
Posted by IAmShadeaux
Florida
Member since Jan 2020
158 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:03 pm to
Texas hasn’t been successful since Mack Brown, personally think Texas is the problem, not Herman.
Posted by BuddyBuckets1
Member since Nov 2016
553 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:04 pm to
The problem at Texas is known.

They have too many chefs (donors/money men), one kitchen (program).
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
4166 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:04 pm to
It’s mostly UT. Herman had them in recovery mode and it wasn’t good enough. They really feel like someone should come in there and just win everything immediately. Similar to LSU but they’re even more delusional and that program is in much worse shape than LSU at this point.
Posted by GeauxJZK
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
1642 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:04 pm to
He beat two different teams ranked in the top 3 while at Houston. That’s probably where the good coach thing comes from. Smh
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

He beat two different teams ranked in the top 3 while at Houston.


He was ranked at 6 and lost to Navy.

Navy.

Blown out by a bad SMU team the same year.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted by kwtiger70
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
955 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:06 pm to
Herman is overrated but UT has huge issues.
Posted by GeauxJZK
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
1642 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:43 pm to
So do you judge Saban based on his lost to UAB or his winning a championship?
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:45 pm to
Pretty well documented that UT donors is what kept Saban away. If even he thinks he can't keep them from meddling, no other coach has a chance.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:46 pm to
UT
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26531 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:48 pm to
Herman was doing a good job at UT. Lost some he should not have, but his real downfall was that recruiting began to unravel.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:50 pm to
Herman and UT boosters deserved each other.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:51 pm to
The UT program is garbage and has been for some time

The boosters will not let a coach run the program
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
18238 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

his real downfall was that recruiting began to unravel.




His real downfall was trying not to allow the Board of Regents to run the football program.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

So do you judge Saban based on his lost to UAB or his winning a championship?


I’m no way can anyone compare the records of these two.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:56 pm to
Herman's recruiting was atrocious. People just look at the rankings and think he did a great job, but it was unbalanced as hell. He loaded up on WRs, DBs and neglected OL and DL.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 6:58 pm
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:05 pm to
Herman is a good coach but he was a straight fricking mess off the field. He rubs a lot of people the wrong way and made bad staff decisions, Jeff Traylor wanted nothing to do with him.

With more maturity, he could potentially end up being a homerun for someone down the line. I think we should've just upgraded position coaches and kept Herman.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
13159 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:06 pm to
His MO was his teams lost to teams they shouldn’t. At Houston, they managed to beat OU, and then lose to the likes of Navy and SMU. That continued at Texas.
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