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re: USC is keeping Clay Helton

Posted on 11/25/18 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Serious props to the AD for making the right move

Clay Helton was dealt a tough hand



Yeah, top 5 rated roster based on recruiting rankings. That's a tough hand.
This post was edited on 11/25/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
7533 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 3:33 pm to
I totally approve this and I think Lynn Swann is doing a fantastic job.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22560 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 4:13 pm to
No confidence they can get a big name
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17894 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

He underachieved big time with Darnold.

I wouldn't call a Rose Bowl win and a conference championship a big time underachievement.

Unless you believe their top-5 preseason ranking last year was warranted and they should've been a legitimate national title contender.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2640 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:34 pm to
Came here to say the same.

Won the PAC12 just last year.
Posted by bowlbound
Member since Oct 2017
629 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:16 am to
There are a lot of people that are super pissed about this. It has nothing to do with money. SC has plenty of it. More to do with Swann's ego.
The only way to improve will be to spend on staff and change almost every staff member. That will cost them.
This is just too big of a job for Clay.
He was successful his first couple of years only because of Sam Darnold's ability. The teams have not gotten any better as the season progresses and that is coaching. They are soft and don't play to the end.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13285 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Came here to say the same. Won the PAC12 just last year.

Check out his winning percentage in games where Sam Darnold didn't start and get back to me. It's abysmal.

Our only hope is that they hire ace OC/DC/S&C/SPT coaches and just let Clay be the "hands off, nice guy at the helm".

Based on recent decisions SC has made, I'm not optimistic.
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13340 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:12 pm to
Yikes. I actually feel sorry for a team more than my own. That sucks USC
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

This is strictly by default. SC simply cannot afford his buyout, plus a new coach's salary. They have some serious shite they're dealing with right now. Football is on the back burner.


Like what?
Posted by SDwhodat
Member since Apr 2007
2660 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:21 pm to
Campus doctor basically sexually assaulting students during exams over countless years; lawsuits all over the place now because of it; medical school dean (now former) banging prostitutes while doing hardcore drugs all over LA hotels; president pushed out as a result of the forgoing and still in search of a new one.

Great stuff SC
Posted by machismo64
Birmingham, Al
Member since Dec 2011
248 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:42 am to
Say what you want, that's a classy message.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:51 pm to
I'm an Arizona fan, and this is great news for the Pac 12 South.

I mean, I doubt Sumlin will capitalize, but it's nice to have hope.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96247 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:53 pm to
Frankly, with the efforts being made to retain guys who rightly should be on the bubble (Gus, Helton), it validates my opinion the HC pool is fairly shallow at present.

ADs seem content to keep the devil they know, under whatever financial structure that makes sense, unless a flashy hire can be made - especially upper quintile teams.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

"Clay Helton is our head coach and he will continue to be our head coach."

That's exactly how Alleva said it about Miles.

Miles was fired 5 games later.
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