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re: Two very basic observations Re: Matt Campbell
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:22 pm to berniemoore
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:22 pm to berniemoore
quote:
Go look up Saban’s record at Michigan State
It wasn’t stellar
Saban's win percentage before LSU - 62%
Campbell's win percentage - 61%
There's a ceiling with these lower-tier P5 teams. He's proven enough IMO.
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:23 pm to ellessuuuu
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I’ll take the guy that took the Sunbelt team on the road and destroyed ISU
But ULL lost to Texas and ISU beat Texas so now who do we hire? Sark? See why basing a hire on one game is silly?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:23 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
ULL 14-31
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:26 pm to ECOTIGER
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ooks like Napier blew him out in 2020.
Napier got beat out by a down right shitty Texas team this year.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:26 pm to Ocardowin
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What did Saban sustain at Michigan State? I’ll hang up and listen
So Campbell is nick saban? Hmm seems like when you say that about another certain candidate you get made fun of
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:29 pm to burke985
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So Campbell is nick saban? Hmm seems like when you say that about another certain candidate you get made fun of
Nope, and if that's your takeaway from what I said, you're dumber than I thought.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:30 pm to Lester Earl
Nice thread, Lester...
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:31 pm to Lester Earl
Very interesting on how competitive they are in losses, good post.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:35 pm to burke985
Saban at Michigan State (little sister school)
1995 6-5-1
1996 6-6
1997 7-5
1998 6-6
1999 10-2
Saban at LSU
2000 8-4
2001 10-3
2002 8-5
2003 13-1
2004 9-3
Campbell at Iowa State (little sister school)
2016 3-9
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 7-6
2020 9-3
2021 6-4
Which school was in better shape when the coaches took over
Which school had the better tradition
I like Aranda and Napier better but will not disparage the man's work
1995 6-5-1
1996 6-6
1997 7-5
1998 6-6
1999 10-2
Saban at LSU
2000 8-4
2001 10-3
2002 8-5
2003 13-1
2004 9-3
Campbell at Iowa State (little sister school)
2016 3-9
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 7-6
2020 9-3
2021 6-4
Which school was in better shape when the coaches took over
Which school had the better tradition
I like Aranda and Napier better but will not disparage the man's work
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:35 pm to Ocardowin
quote:
Nope, and if that's your takeaway from what I said, you're dumber than I thought.
You said look at Saban record, so you are saying Campbell is Saban because he has a subpar record at a lesser school.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:37 pm to Tiger Voodoo
There is no denying that matt campbell is a good coach.
I just don't see him coming to lsu the same way i don't see fickell coming.
I just don't see him coming to lsu the same way i don't see fickell coming.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:39 pm to burke985
quote:
You said look at Saban record, so you are saying Campbell is Saban because he has a subpar record at a lesser school.
I hope you're just being difficult because it's quite obvious he was saying these types of school have a cap in terms of how far you can take them in terms of wins/losses.
It would be better to look at it from the perspective of how did that school perform prior to that coach arriving vs what they did after they showed up.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:41 pm to berniemoore
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I like Aranda and Napier better but will not disparage the man's work
If your gonna go second tier which will probably yield the same results then get the guy that is cheaper. Napier would be cheaper...and no it's not my money I don't care that is just business sense. Why pay more for something when it will yield the same results. But honestly if Coach Zero can win a title at LSU, anyone with common sense can so Campbell would probably do the same here too.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:41 pm to Lester Earl
Very good coach, but I’m not going to lie. I’d melt hard if it’s Campbell
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:43 pm to Lester Earl
What’s his thing?
He’s not an Offensive guy
His defenses are relatively good, but never elite.
His record is relatively good but never elite.
For every big win, he drops a stinker.
He’s not an Offensive guy
His defenses are relatively good, but never elite.
His record is relatively good but never elite.
For every big win, he drops a stinker.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:44 pm to BilJ
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So did Campbell become a worse coach
No, but he’s proven that he’s not a BETTER coach. 2 seasons ago he was winning 7-8 games per season and was on an upward trajectory. Now he’s winning 7-8 games per season and is plateaued.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:45 pm to Lester Earl
Dude is SOLID and anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:45 pm to Chalkywhite84
quote:
There is no denying that matt campbell is a good coach.
I just don't see him coming to lsu the same way i don't see fickell coming.
I haven't really discussed him on here because of this. Just didn't think he was a real option.
If Riley is off the table, Campbell is in that solid 2nd tier, well above guys like Jimbo, Napier, and Tucker. He's in that "unattainable but would be great" tier like Rhule.
Head says Campbell. Heart says Aranda.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:48 pm to ellessuuuu
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I’ll take the guy that took the Sunbelt team on the road and destroyed ISU.
One game. That's what your criteria is...one game?
Dumb
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
There's an lsu poster that posts a ton with an ISU logo that has ties to ISU and he said Matt is amazing but a huge disciplinary coach. That isn't a negative but we do have players smoking weed and we know how much that rule has fricked us. Curious how Matt will navigate that and recruiting because there's rules constantly broken there.
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