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re: Trying to be objective...is O really a bad decision?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:54 am to roscoe mike
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:54 am to roscoe mike
Wait until year 3 then let's revisit.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:55 am to Topwater Trout
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they will always shite on O instead of being optimistic that he MAY have learned from his past
Outside of allowing his coaches to coach, what has he really learned?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:55 am to Topwater Trout
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think its as simple as some guys had their favorites and since we didn't get them or interview them they will always shite on O instead of being optimistic that he MAY have learned from his past
That is not common at all with anti O guys. We wanted anybody else. Big difference.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:59 am to SportTiger1
It wasn't a good hire for LSU. I don't blame O, hell, of course he would accept the job. I put it all on Alleva. Nothing in O's resume makes him qualified for a job like LSU.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:05 am to Topwater Trout
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I think its as simple as some guys had their favorites and since we didn't get them or interview them they will always shite on O instead of being optimistic that he MAY have learned from his past
keep telling yourself that.
This is one of the dumber narratives out there, that people take favorites and root against the guy that got the job since my guy didn't. I'm not optimistic because I've seen his record. Just as past success is no guarantee, so to is past failure. I do not expect Coach O to go 10-25 at LSU. He's 11-4 since then. That translates to 8.8 wins. I wasn't really looking to fire Les Miles so we can go 9-3, 8-4 with a likable coon arse.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:10 am to SportTiger1
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Bama scored 57 on florida. Think about that.
had we not self destructed inside the 20 I think the score prob would have been similar
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:11 am to c on z
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Outside of allowing his coaches to coach, what has he really learned?
well that would be more than the national championship coach we had
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:14 am to H-Town Tiger
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This is one of the dumber narratives out there
no one of the dumber narratives out there is that we didn't conduct a coaching search. Nobody knows what happened over the last few months. They don't know if agents contacted LSU (most likely they did and would have to show interest for their client) People truly believe we did nothing and I am sorry you can cry about the hire but there is no way they weren't in contact with more coaches than Jimbo and Herman.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:15 am to SportTiger1
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We wanted anybody else. Big difference
I wanted 2 others but I am not crying about it
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:25 am to Topwater Trout
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o one of the dumber narratives out there is that we didn't conduct a coaching search. Nobody knows what happened over the last few months. They don't know if agents contacted LSU (most likely they did and would have to show interest for their client) People truly believe we did nothing and I am sorry you can cry about the hire but there is no way they weren't in contact with more coaches than Jimbo and Herman.
now we can add strawman to your repertoire since I said nothing of the kind.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 11:27 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:27 am to H-Town Tiger
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no we can add strawman to your repertoire since I said nothing of the kind.
you have not seen this narrative every day since the hiring of O?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:36 am to Topwater Trout
I will tell you this time next season.
Coach O coached in 7 games and was 5-2
The Offense set multiple records once he was the coach.
We lost to the best team in the country. (They have won 20+ in a row)
Should have beaten Florida
We will get to see in about a month what he can do with about a month to prepare for an opponent when we play Louisville.
Coach O coached in 7 games and was 5-2
The Offense set multiple records once he was the coach.
We lost to the best team in the country. (They have won 20+ in a row)
Should have beaten Florida
We will get to see in about a month what he can do with about a month to prepare for an opponent when we play Louisville.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:48 am to Split2874
I am a believer. I believe he will have us competing for sec championships starting next year
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:53 am to Topwater Trout
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obody knows what happened over the last few months
Including you
However, this narrative you speak of has evidence to support it while your guess does not.
Evidence of contacting others:
I have not seen any evidence that LSU conducted a proper coaching search. I have seen no evidence that LSU did contacted anyone besides Herman and Fisher.
Evidence for not contacting anyone else:
There is evidence of LSU contacting Herman and Fisher. WHy would there be evidence of contacting those two, but none of the others you think LSU contacted?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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no one of the dumber narratives out there is that we didn't conduct a coaching search. Nobody knows what happened over the last few months. They don't know if agents contacted LSU (most likely they did and would have to show interest for their client) People truly believe we did nothing and I am sorry you can cry about the hire but there is no way they weren't in contact with more coaches than Jimbo and Herman.
We either didn't conduct a search or Alleva fricking sucks at negotiation and/or selling how good of a job LSU is. Either way, we landed on a career DL coach - seriously. Do you REALLY think that's the best LSU can do? If so, you have a pretty shitty image of LSU and the quality of a job it is.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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you have not seen this narrative every day since the hiring of O?
can't say that i have, but regardless, I NEVER said that, so I don't care. You however did state the nonsense about people being against O since "my" guy didn't get hired.
I'll root for the team and hope he does well. I rooted for LSU when Curley Hallman was the coach. But if it goes like I'm afraid it will, i reserve the right to be savagely critical.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:07 pm to roscoe mike
I have nothing personal against Coach O, but hiring him will hurt LSU in the long run.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
you said my statement was one of the dumber narratives yet you haven't seen the most common narrative on here...holy shite 
you're damn right I did and its the truth. Some are still crying b/c we didn't get in a bidding war with Texas b/c they think we could have gotten their guy
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You however did state the nonsense about people being against O since "my" guy didn't get hired.
you're damn right I did and its the truth. Some are still crying b/c we didn't get in a bidding war with Texas b/c they think we could have gotten their guy
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:10 pm to Topwater Trout
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I believe he will have us competing for sec championships starting next year
You heard it here folks! Next year is the year!
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:12 pm to lsu2006
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Do you REALLY think that's the best LSU can do?
I have never once said that. I am still happy we got rid of miles. I thought he has ehld back this team for years. I really think its easy to win here and coach O will support my claim.
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