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Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:14 pm to
Why wouldn't he want to at least try it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:15 pm to
There's not a lot of examples of coordinators who don't have the desire to be a HC. It's safe to assume he does. There's not a whole lot of dudes like John chavis out there

Aranda is young and talented, I'm sure he would like to run a program and test himself in that way.
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Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:17 pm to
Why are you taking one example and trying to fit it to every other coordinator? Seems like a poor way to make an assumption
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:17 pm to
When is he supposed to say it and what purpose would it create?
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Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4891 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Why didn't Chavis ever try


Add Bud foster
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:23 pm to
According to one of his GA's from Delta State, yes he wants to be a head coach.
quote:

Scott laughed retelling that story. It’s just goofy, quirky Dave Aranda — a defensive mad scientist with a quiet, self-depreciating style who, yes, wants to be a head coach one day. “He’s going to be a rock star,” Scott said.
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Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:25 pm to
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I am not saying he needs to come out and proclaim it now. But usually, when coaches are younger, they will say at some point that it is their dream to be head coach at ________ school. It's not uncommon.



Give me some examples of this happening please. I don't think it's as common as you think it is
Posted by BeauxNArreaux
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2016
798 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:55 pm to
His contract required a no-buyout clause if he were to get a HC job. So I assume that indicates that his goal is to one day take that position.
As far as LSU hiring him as HC, thats too high of a risk for someone who has zero experience in that position. Example- Lane Kiffin is a phenomenal coordinator, but a LOUSY head coach. The skill set doesnt always translate as much as intuition would have you believe.
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:24 pm to
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“He’s going to be a rock star,” Scott said


I get the "he has no HC experience", "not the strongest recruiter" comments, I really do, but (to me) it just comes down to this comment and others like it.

If he's going to be someone's stud HC, frick it, let's make him OUR rock star. He's smart enough to know what he's good at and what he's not; what's to say he wouldn't go to some stud OC, hand him the keys, and tell him, "have at it".
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:36 pm to
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If he's going to be someone's stud HC, frick it, let's make him OUR rock star. He's smart enough to know what he's good at and what he's not; what's to say he wouldn't go to some stud OC, hand him the keys, and tell him, "have at it".
im totally on board with this right now.

there is no home run, there are legit concerns about every single candidate, so why not keep as much continuity as we can, while still fixing the things that are broken, with a guy who might be the best defensive coach we've ever had.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:48 pm to
I think the better question is has he ever said that he doesn't want to be a HC?

I think it's reasonable to assume that most young coordinators aspire to have their own programs.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:52 pm to
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If he's going to be someone's stud HC, frick it, let's make him OUR rock star.


you don't know shite. HC is a completely different position than DC. just because a guys good at one job doesn't make him good at another
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37680 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:03 pm to
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His contract required a no-buyout clause if he were to get a HC job. So I assume that indicates that his goal is to one day take that position.



It doesn't indicate someday, it indicates he would be interested before his first contract with LSU expired.


quote:

As far as LSU hiring him as HC, thats too high of a risk for someone who has zero experience in that position. Example- Lane Kiffin is a phenomenal coordinator, but a LOUSY head coach


I think there are obvious maturity reasons for why Kiffin has failed as a head coach. Being a head coach is about not only talent but also vision and leadership. I think Kiffin is talented but lacks the maturity to use his vision and develop his leadership.

No one you can realistically hire is certain to succeed at LSU. But what you can do is hire a guy who shows a lot of ability. A special coach who rapidly moves up the college ranks also will not likely be available if you pass on him once.

I am fine with someone who wants Fisher instead of Aranda because he's shown he can build a program to the level of a national championship. I'm also fine with someone who prefers a specific coach who has lead their program to multiple ten win seasons and BCS bowls. But I would take Aranda before anyone without those credentials because I think he might be that special. And all you can try to do when you hire someone is hire someone who might be that special.
Posted by Meldedee
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
3473 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:42 pm to
Is there not a great offensive mind we could hire as OC and give Dave Aranda the head coaching job?

This guy is lightning in a bottle. Change our offensive scheme and recruit some O linemen and we are perfect.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I get the "he has no HC experience", "not the strongest recruiter" comments, I really do, but (to me) it just comes down to this comment and others like it.

If he's going to be someone's stud HC, frick it, let's make him OUR rock star. He's smart enough to know what he's good at and what he's not; what's to say he wouldn't go to some stud OC, hand him the keys, and tell him, "have at it".


my sentiments exactly.. I have a way better feeling he would be the next saban before Muschamp/Kirby or any of those guys.. He seems to be more like a Bill Belichick type guy..
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:09 am to
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Why didn't Chavis ever try?



Its really, REALLY rare for a top coordinator to not attempt to be a head coach.
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