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re: Top jobs in America?

Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:39 pm to
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LSU has all of this and then some. May not be as much in some categories as other fanbases, but it doesn't separate them by one whole tier.



Absolutely LSU is a top-notch job. I wasn't disrespecting the other schools by listing them as "tier 2", but I truly believe the other three are a slight notch above and I was listing as such.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56723 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:48 pm to
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Texas and Florida have a lot of in-state competition and a lot of other top out of state programs are able to land top talent from those states. Auburn and Alabama pretty much have an oligopoly of talent to themselves.


Texas really doesn't have a lot of instate competition at all. Texas is the first choice of almost every top high school prospect here. They have the highest percentage of home state players out of every team in CFB. They NEVER have to go out of state. Their only real competition is OU.

Florida is the number one choice of pretty much every top Florida recruit too. Recent FSU and Miami recruiting classes don't even compare. Take a look at UF's current class.

Alabama has Auburn to deal with and you still have Tennessee, LSU and other programs come in every so often, and it's a much more shallow pool of players - it's a smaller state. It's a talented state, but it's definitely not Texas or Florida...or even Louisiana for that matter.
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:51 pm to
I wasn't really directing what I said at you.

I just think LSU is one of those top jobs. I agree that I think the Florida job is a better job than LSU, but I think LSU is still in the Top Tier with Florida.

I am pretty objective about other topics, but I am a homer on this one.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56723 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:55 pm to
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I just think LSU is one of those top jobs. I agree that I think the Florida job is a better job than LSU, but I think LSU is still in the Top Tier with Florida.


That's why I reserved Tier 1a for UF and 1b for LSU.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/13/10 at 12:11 am to
this is about TOP JOBS right$$$$

notre dame
oklahoma
texas
usc
florida
alabama
ohio state


You said top jobs, not best recruiting or most talent rich state.

You said top jobs.

and those schools are the cream of the crop.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56723 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 12:13 am to
I'm sorry, but jobs like OSU and Notre Dame are no longer as good as Texas, Florida, USC or LSU.
This post was edited on 1/13/10 at 12:14 am
Posted by Naturally Nawlins
WHO DAT!
Member since Dec 2008
1389 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 12:56 am to
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Um, what? Look at all the NFL active players from Alabama.



quote:

Jamarcus Russell


Posted by NC_Tigah
Ray Bans for Max Polarization
Member since Sep 2003
140811 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 1:37 am to
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The frick is so funny? I'm looking at it strictly from a standpoint of where can I recruit the best players and give myself the best opportunity for success.

I don't give a frick how many championships Ohio State and Notre Dame won 50 years ago. They're not going to be able to consistently recruit the level of athletes as Florida, Texas or USC year in and year out in the current college football landscape.
The state of Texas is talent laden but is also home to several BCS conference in-state schools plus TCU. Then there is Oklahoma (often boasting 35-50% of its roster from TX) competing for that talent. Florida has 3 historically strong programs competing for its players (plus a couple of Johnnie-come-lately's). Louisiana, not so much. So basing opinions strictly on #'s of NFL players from one state or another is misleading unless you're going to divide that # by the # of BCS schools in the state.

Also naming just 2-3 "top-tier" programs is silly.

In terms of profits, the programs rank this way:

1. Texas
2. Notre Dame
3. Penn State
4. Nebraska
5. Alabama
6. Florida
7. LSU
8. Ohio State
9. Georgia
10. Oklahoma

Of interest on that list --- No USC, No Michigan, and otherwise not one Pac10 or ACC team.



This post was edited on 1/13/10 at 1:40 am
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56723 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 1:42 am to
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Also naming just 2-3 "top-tier" programs is silly.


These are the top jobs in America that we're ranking and not most profitable or prestigious programs.

Two or three jobs stand alone above all others.
Posted by The Rancor
Jabba's Palace
Member since Dec 2009
54 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 1:51 am to
USC is by far the best job in America.

It's got a prime location, fertile recruiting grounds - a virtual monopoly of the west coast and whoever else they want, plus it's just a sexy program. Where else can boast beaches, movie stars, Hollywood, and an NFL like notoriety...
Posted by NC_Tigah
Ray Bans for Max Polarization
Member since Sep 2003
140811 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 3:02 pm to
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Two or three jobs stand alone above all others
No they don't.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 3:25 pm to
I'm surprised so few people are mentioning Penn St as a top tier job. They have the entire northeast virtually to themselves, not that Pennsylvania isn't a pretty loaded high school state. Great facilities and a huge fanbase as well. I can't believe that it's not showing up on people's top ten. Hell, I think it might be a top five job.

There's a reason a guy who barely even recruits anymore can still contend for titles up there. It's a plum job.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56723 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 3:37 pm to
Yes, they do.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45429 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 3:41 pm to
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Texas and Florida have a lot of in-state competition and other top out of state programs are able to land top talent from those states. Auburn and Alabama pretty much have an oligopoly of talent to themselves.


yep, and people seem to forget AU get's alot of west GA recruit's and AU/Bama usually clean out MS.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 3:44 pm to
Tier 1 jobs:

USC, Bama, Georgia, LSU, UF, Texas, OU, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan


Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37682 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

this is about TOP JOBS right$$$$

notre dame
oklahoma
texas
usc
florida
alabama
ohio state


You said top jobs, not best recruiting or most talent rich state.

You said top jobs.



The most important thing about the job is how possible it is to excel there... just because Boone Pickens could put up 10 million a year for some coach at Ok State wouldn't make it a top job

The recruiting advantages and facilities are hugely important. Weather even matters IMO when you are recruiting... many kids won't want to go somewhere up north (even OSU or ND) when they could go to Florida or Texas instead
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45429 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 3:51 pm to
it varies on who's winning. Bama right now. A couple of years ago it was LSU/UF. When a school starts losing, it's amazing how fast their stock drops.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37682 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 3:58 pm to
no, what matters if you are interested in a coaching job is how easy it is to win there... not if someone else made an inferior position work
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73505 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 4:11 pm to
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Bama (with Saban only)


While Saban may be the best coach in the country, Alabama has won across many different eras.
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
4564 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

I'm sorry, but jobs like OSU and Notre Dame are no longer as good as Texas, Florida, USC or LSU


OSU is every bit as good a job as LSU. In fact, they're pretty similar in terms of money, facilities, access to talent.
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