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re: Tim Brando has been very talkative today regarding the Kiffin situation...

Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:47 am to
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46979 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:47 am to
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What have you seen to believe Kiffin has any business in the NFL?


I've seen very little to believe he has any business as a HC at all but he keeps failing upwards
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26338 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:29 am to
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LSU will also have a nasty buyout clause


Not if they want to get him to come here. They might be able to stick in a larger buyout clause in that would be triggered if he left LSU for another coordinator position, with a small buyout if he leaves for a HC job.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:32 am to
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Not if they want to get him to come here. They might be able to stick in a larger buyout clause in that would be triggered if he left LSU for another coordinator position, with a small buyout if he leaves for a HC job.


this. O isn't going to stick a buyout clause on Kiffin.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86726 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:37 am to
Brando called that Les would be fired after an Auburn loss and O would be interim HC in August.

Brando might know more than people want to give him credit.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 8:38 am
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:45 am to
pretty much agree with everything Brando says here.. and I think houston wants to lock him in, they are tired of the the revolving door there, they want to be a bigger school, problem is there not.. its a launching pad. It is what it is.. He's prob going to LSU but the problem is he is only there for a year, two max.. hard to recruit for that.. I think Kiffen wants that Oregon job or maybe Arizona/Arizona State not sure whats left for him in California. If Im oregon, I go after him or roll the dice on Fleck.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173729 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:49 am to
People actually wonder why OCs weren't successful under Miles?
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:50 am to
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Brando called that Les would be fired after an Auburn loss and O would be interim HC in August.

Brando might know more than people want to give him credit.


whether some like to admit it or not, Brando is an intelligent guy and does have connections in the state.

Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20259 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:04 am to
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if kif wants to rehabilitate his reputation he goes to lsu for about the same salary as aranda.

Kiffin has already rehabilitated his image. That's why schools are considering him for HC jobs. A move to LSU is a lateral one with no added benefit to Kiffin, other than money. His stock right now (as an OC) is as high as it can get.

I'd love to have him here as OC, but I don't think it's going to happen.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:11 am to
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A move to LSU is a lateral one with no added benefit to Kiffin, other than money.
What if the jobs he wants are looking like they could open up in a year? He can't leave a head coaching job in a year........again. ASU (where Blake Barnett just committed), UCLA, Arizona are all looking like possible next year openings. If he's stuck at a lower job somewhere else, he'll miss out on the opportunity. Just a thought.


Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5342 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:20 am to
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Kiffin has already rehabilitated his image.


Under the close scrutiny if the biggest control monger in the history of the game whose OC's are all successful.

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That's why other schools are considering him for HC jobs.


One school. Just one - Houston, which just lost it's 2nd hot, up and coming coach to a larger in-state P5 school.

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A move to LSU is a lateral one, with no added benefit other than money


And getting FULL credit for turning around one of the worst offenses in recent CFB memory.

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His stock right now (as an OC) is as high as it can get.


From an X's and O's standpoint he gets full credit for doing a complete 180 with LSU's pathetic offense. Currently you hear (all over this board) weeeell Bama's got the best defense in America and their OL is insane and their skill position units are unreal.

He doesn't get full credit. Some but not full credit.

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I'd love to have him here as OC, but I don't think it's going to happen.


It may not b/c Lane may take the Houston job. But there is a decent chance they've been burned too much by being the farm system for bigger programs and theyll put a deal breaking buyout on Lane.

Also - from a career rehab standpoint coming to LSU gives Lane a chance to show that without Saban's micromanagement he can steer clear of off the field issues.




This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 9:26 am
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7262 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:27 am to
Brando thinks Johnny Jones is a great coach.

That tells you all you need to know
Posted by FL tigers 321
the BREvard
Member since Dec 2013
513 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:32 am to
quote:

What big job could open out west next year?



UCLA?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26338 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:56 am to
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A move to LSU is a lateral one with no added benefit to Kiffin, other than money.


Gets him out from under Saban's shadow. And maybe he wants to be patient and wait a year or so for a better HC job at a Power 5 school to open up instead of taking a HC job now then jumping ship to a new HC job in 2 years.

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His stock right now (as an OC) is as high as it can get.


Lot of people saying he's only successful at Bama because of Saban, having the best O-line in the country, and just having better quality players than their opponents. If he comes to LSU and turns that one dimensional offense around, his stock goes up bigly.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22336 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:12 am to
LK to Houson, on paper, is a no brainer for him as would be a HC position. However, the large buy out issue could be a deal killer, as UH has lost its last 3 highly successful HC's to Power 5 programs. With CLM, however, I can't see him having any issue with a buy out clause at his age. The money man at UH did not get to be a multi billionaire by being stupid, & he has to know if LK is not locked in by a buy out clause, LK is gone in 2 seasons at best.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26338 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:21 am to
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LK to Houson, on paper, is a no brainer for him as would be a HC position


I wouldn't be so sure. If he's got his sights set on being HC at a Power 5 school within another season or 2, then might be better for him to either stay as OC at Bama or take same job at LSU. No one would criticize him if he came to LSU as OC and left after just one year to be HC somewhere else. But considering his abrupt departure from being HC at Tennessee after just one season to take the USC job, he'll catch a whole lot of criticism if he take the UH job then leaves after just a season or 2 for a bigger job.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:11 pm to
my sauces have been in line with Brando's since day 1, and I'm hearing the same thing. Lock up your daughters Baton Rouge. Jeauxy Swampwater may be headed your way
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10226 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:30 pm to
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and I think houston wants to lock him in, they are tired of the the revolving door there, they want to be a bigger school, problem is there not.


Miles is the only one on the list that will sign a deal with a huge buy out. No upwardly mobile coach is willing to be tied down at Houston. Their egos are to big for that.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:25 pm to
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Brando
quote:

interesting


Does not compute
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96252 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:45 pm to
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I think he comes to LSU for 2 seasons and then goes to the pro ranks.




He was the head coach of the Oakland Raiders. Just lose, baby!
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
2176 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:56 pm to
The Sexton/Kiffin buy-out stuff seems to have legs.
I hope it creates a sticking point…
Still a long way to go…and with Sexton, it's like a box of chocolates.
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