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re: The Rice job. You have to go get a triple option guy.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 1:43 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 11/26/24 at 1:43 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Scott Abell Named New Head Coach
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 1:48 pm to LSU Tigerhead
Who
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:27 pm to LSU Tigerhead
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Scott Abell Named New Head Coach
Well, looks like the OP called it regarding a triple option guy. Abell calls his a 'modified' triple option, but basically same concepts.
We'll see how it works out.
I will say a much better hire than the Yale coach. Rice tried hiring the successful Ivy League coach in the 80s with Jerry Berndt, and it failed miserably.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:40 pm to hogwildinhouston
Ohh forget this board even existed
yes I've been in favor of going back to the triple option for YEARS
yes I've been in favor of going back to the triple option for YEARS
Posted on 11/26/24 at 5:21 pm to OWLFAN86
Gonna be a ton of transfers out of Rice after this hire. Not that he is not qualified but nobody wants to play in a triple option offense at FBs level unless you are in the service academy.
Rice has some good talent at WR and now I see those kids leaving.
Damn shame.
Rice has some good talent at WR and now I see those kids leaving.
Damn shame.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:00 am to PowerTool
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The massive stadium is a strange relic from a different era, and different version of the school when it was more associated with local new money.
I think there was actually a Super Bowl there once in the 1960's, or maybe an "NFL Championship Game" before the official Super Bowls came about
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:50 am to Geauxgurt
This guy has done a great job at Davidson which is an extremely tough place to win games at. You’ll get transfers out because of the scheme, but it’s very unique and I’m curious how this works out
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:02 am to Geauxgurt
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Gonna be a ton of transfers out of Rice after this hire. Not that he is not qualified but nobody wants to play in a triple option offense at FBs level unless you are in the service academy.
If you’re winning games and conference titles, then what you run on offense doesn't matter. Players want to play somewhere they can win. Being a spread passing team for the sake of it is how a lot of these small time teams ended up buried in the cellar. So, even if Rice comes out in the Wishbone, if they start winning people will be happy.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 12:27 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Super Bowl 8 1974 Vikings versus Dolphins
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:13 am to OWLFAN86
As predicted, going to be a significant number of players hitting the portal for Rice. Very few went to Rice to play in a triple option offense and they are going to lose the little significant talent they have because of it.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:15 pm to Geauxgurt
I hope I'm wrong but I don't see this ending well for Rice at all. They didn't need to go option. If a school like Tulane can do well w/a modern offense Rice should be able to do it too.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:59 pm to Geauxgurt
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As predicted, going to be a significant number of players hitting the portal for Rice. Very few went to Rice to play in a triple option offense and they are going to lose the little significant talent they have because of it.
They show 2 in the portal so far, and they're 3stars. Including a QB who transferred to Rice from Temple.
I think you're being a little dramatic. The kind of players that Rice can get, for the most part, don't have the NFL combine in their future. It's not going to matter what kind of offense they run, the goal is to be more competitive in the AAC and give the handful of alumni who attend games and occasional win.
Rice has had more players in Pro Football Reference in the past decade than I would have guessed, but I think most people are going to be more interested in having some wins than being able to brag about a couple of their boys making practice squads.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 7:45 pm to PowerTool
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They show 2 in the portal so far, and they're 3stars. Including a QB who transferred to Rice from Temple.
Can’t enter the portal officially until tomorrow, so not sure what you are talking about.
They have some good WRs and OL that have NFL potential. All are considering leaving because Option offense makes no sense for them.
You won’t get any NFL potential prospects on the OL nor will you keep them if you luck into one.
It was a bad decision that basically guarantees they will only win a handful of games a year. Army and Navy are different animals being military academies. The types they are bringing in won’t be anything like the kids Rice would bring in.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:53 pm to Geauxgurt
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Can’t enter the portal officially until tomorrow, so not sure what you are talking about.
Then what were you citing earlier? I was looking at 247, which shows two portaling out so far.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:57 am to Geauxgurt
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It was a bad decision that basically guarantees they will only win a handful of games a year. Army and Navy are different animals being military academies. The types they are bringing in won’t be anything like the kids Rice would bring in.
Abell’s offense at Davidson was the shotgun option. Rice won’t be in the flexbone any time soon. You know who else runs shotgun based option offenses? Rich Rodriguez and Chip Kelly. Guys leaving Rice aren’t leaving because they will be “running the option.” You’re acting like they hired Jeff Monken or Brian Bohannon. And even then, if they start winning who cares what they run? They’re not in the SEC. Army went 11-1 with a schedule like Rice would have.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 4:22 pm to Geauxgurt
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Geauxgurt
You need to shut down and retool, because you have no clue what you're talking about in pretty much every sentence I just read.
You're probably young. You young guys have never heard of time of possession.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 5:02 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Running a shotgun option offense still limits training for a lot of offensive guys looking to develop for the next level. That includes QB, WR and OL.
This is about the players that are talented but not freak athletes that will get into the league based on their athleticism and combine numbers alone.
I didn’t say the guy was a bad coach, but they also are not going to get the guys that go to Army/Navy etc to Rice. It’s a different pool of players, and the academic rigor at Rice makes it less appealing to many athletes in some cases.
This is about the players that are talented but not freak athletes that will get into the league based on their athleticism and combine numbers alone.
I didn’t say the guy was a bad coach, but they also are not going to get the guys that go to Army/Navy etc to Rice. It’s a different pool of players, and the academic rigor at Rice makes it less appealing to many athletes in some cases.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:00 pm to Geauxgurt
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Running a shotgun option offense still limits training for a lot of offensive guys looking to develop for the next level.
No college offense resembles an NFL offense in any way, shape, or form. Hardly anyone runs a prostyle offense in college anymore. It’s all Air Raid, spread option, or RPO. NFL guys do bits and pieces of everything. If you’re a good enough athlete they will teach you what they want you to know.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:02 pm to iBack8569
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No college offense resembles an NFL offense in any way, shape, or form.
That’s not the point. But learning to run block as WR is great if you have limited route trees and opportunities for catches.
Same for OL. Pass blocking gets you to the NFL more than run blocking. In this type of offense you aren’t really doing pass blocking much and the type you do is not really translatable.
Again, the guy is likely a very good coach but his system is going to push away a lot of players. Apparently the entire OL is considering transferring and their best OL is already in the portal.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:30 pm to Geauxgurt
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Geauxgurt
No offense, but you have absolutely no clue and all you had to say was “I personally don’t like option offenses.” Abell might flop, who knows? The FBS is a different animal than smaller divisions. But, the fact is that the guy wins at hard to win places and he happens to be a triple option guy. Enjoy the ride next season if it takes off.
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