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re: The case for Daronte Jones
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:15 pm to TruthSpeaker225
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:15 pm to TruthSpeaker225
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If not here, hope he gets another shot calling defenses.
he will.
he absolutely grew into that job and has earned his DC title.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:19 pm to BilJ
Never has anyone been fellated for doing less since Russ Callaway last year.
I think the article about him loving rare whiskey won over a lot of rantards.
I think the article about him loving rare whiskey won over a lot of rantards.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:25 pm to TruthSpeaker225
Under the circumstances, I think Jones did a really good job. I wouldn’t be upset, if Kelly kept him around.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:26 pm to TruthSpeaker225
No. I'm not simping for this dude when LSU is willing to dish big bucks out for a DC. BK has to nail the DC hire and this guy ain't it. Needs to be someone elite.
Why in the living hell would we settle for this guy if LSU is willing to double his salary for a DC? Did it ever occur to you guys that mr. I have to learn on the job may not be a healthy option? If the dude had to grow into the job what do you think happens when he faces something he hasn't dealt with before? Is it not more obvious since he couldn't make game time adjustments all year? Wait until he gets exposed again you'll all hate him once again. Get a DC job elsewhere and learn somewhere else not LSU.
Why in the living hell would we settle for this guy if LSU is willing to double his salary for a DC? Did it ever occur to you guys that mr. I have to learn on the job may not be a healthy option? If the dude had to grow into the job what do you think happens when he faces something he hasn't dealt with before? Is it not more obvious since he couldn't make game time adjustments all year? Wait until he gets exposed again you'll all hate him once again. Get a DC job elsewhere and learn somewhere else not LSU.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:26 pm to Celery
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Do we actually know that O was in the way? Or is that just sort of speculating the obvious?
I think he was if you read between the lines.
O talked a lot about simplifying things before the season and that's what the defense was doing, running base defense. They were doing almost no blitzing.
Then Kiffin let O know they were keeping it to simple during the bye week. Shake my head that a man with as many years on the defensive side of the ball had to be told by another coach that he was only running base defense.
After the bye week, O "opened things up". Which probably meant let Daronte do what he wanted to and the defense improved every game after.
What happened this year has all the appearances of O sitting on his first year coordinator trying to keep it simple, then he seemed to let Daronte do what he wanted to after someone clued him into why the defense was performing poorly.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:31 pm to PoppaD
That's purely speculation. You can only go by results on the field and his results were not great against any offenses with pulses. Kiffin ran circles around this dude.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:36 pm to Maximus
"Jimbo and his offense suck"
"Y'ALL SEE DARONTE SHUT DOWN A&M???"
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:37 pm to TruthSpeaker225
We are in a position where we do not have to pray the right coordinator will be hired and lobby on message boards for people anymore.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:38 pm to BilJ
He shutdown a shitty Bama offense too which really struggled second half. TAMU game actually showed why he's not a good DC. He makes zero adjustments and they almost curb stomped us in the second half after getting dominated first. His scheme coming into the game either works or it doesn't. If the coaches adjust to his scheme you better believe he's going to stand there bamboozled trying to make what it is work even if he's figured out.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:39 pm to BilJ
We trying to go bigtime and these mother frickers wanna retain the whole frickin staff. Next they will want is O to come back and recruit. This place is a shitshow
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:42 pm to PoppaD
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Then Kiffin let O know they were keeping it to simple during the bye week. Shake my head that a man with as many years on the defensive side of the ball had to be told by another coach that he was only running base defense.
What do you mean “had to be told”?
Just looked at the interview again and O response to Lane was “I know”. Meaning lane didn’t tell
Him the defense he was running. Jones was just keeping it basic. right after that O says he went look at the tape for how they played Bama a few years before when he was at Tennessee. And they used that defense. It seems the narrative that O let jones dictate the D for Bama is probably Not true. That was O going back to the 3-3 with blitzes drawn up by Coyle.
Regardless, Hopefully we can upgrade from Jones with the DC hire.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
Same people wanted some combo of Jorge Munoz/Mangis/Callaway as OC the past two years with this well it wouldn't hurt my feelings if we retain this guy who "got better" and doesn't recruit or develop young players.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:52 pm to Maximus
I defintiely saw some “if we had hired Calloway as OC we would only have X amount of losses”
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:00 pm to Boomshockalocka
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It seems the narrative that O let jones dictate the D for Bama is probably Not true. That was O going back to the 3-3 with blitzes drawn up by Coyle.
Regardless, Hopefully we can upgrade from Jones with the DC hire.
I don't know who did what but the last 4 games were night and day to the point that defense was probably close to tops in the country stat wise. Scoring defense was much improved as well. Last 4 games this D allowed 308,283,311,& 296 yds and thrre of those teams were ranked...
So someone needs to explain how this staff and roster of 3rd stringers pulled that off. It was not just playing on opportunity and emotion. We completely flip flopped the pressure tendencies and took a lot more risks on secondary coverage. Everyone on the D looked like different players.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:01 pm to TruthSpeaker225
If I was BK and was considering Jones I’d sit Raymond down and say : you’re job is safe (assuming it is but it should be) but who was responsible for the defense in September and October and who was responsible for the defense in November.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:06 pm to GetmorewithLes
Well It is because it was different players. How many guys started the seasons as starters ended the season as starters? 2 or 3?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:26 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Kevin coyle who was the lead defensive analyst put together those blitz packages and O asked Jones to install them.
Where did you see that and why do we do everything so arse backwards?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:29 pm to SammyTiger
That was a quote from O in a press conference either after the game or the following week.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:34 pm to Boomshockalocka
His thoughts on the recent results from DC Daronte Jones...
"I am proud of him. Really proud of him. When I went in during the open week, and said (what we were doing), and he put it in and didn’t blink. And he’s calling it. To call zero blitz, you gotta have some you know what. And he’s doing it, and he’s not blinking."
On the decision to move to 3-4 looks on defense...
"I told the guys we have to change going into Alabama. I was looking at the front, since that’s my expertise, and we weren’t stopping the run in the 4-3. You have to do different things … I knew some defenses we could put in that were better against the run, and they would change their blocking schemes. Why I was doing that, other people were researching, and Coach Coyle came up to me and said he’s got blitzes that he knows can get home, but they have to be zero. I said run them. We put them in, ran them all week and they have been working for us."
— Bama defense and thereafter was not Jones D. It was O who “meddled” and told Jones what they were gonna run. This was all easy to find it is wild the narratives that start here and become truth isn’t it.
"I am proud of him. Really proud of him. When I went in during the open week, and said (what we were doing), and he put it in and didn’t blink. And he’s calling it. To call zero blitz, you gotta have some you know what. And he’s doing it, and he’s not blinking."
On the decision to move to 3-4 looks on defense...
"I told the guys we have to change going into Alabama. I was looking at the front, since that’s my expertise, and we weren’t stopping the run in the 4-3. You have to do different things … I knew some defenses we could put in that were better against the run, and they would change their blocking schemes. Why I was doing that, other people were researching, and Coach Coyle came up to me and said he’s got blitzes that he knows can get home, but they have to be zero. I said run them. We put them in, ran them all week and they have been working for us."
— Bama defense and thereafter was not Jones D. It was O who “meddled” and told Jones what they were gonna run. This was all easy to find it is wild the narratives that start here and become truth isn’t it.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 3:37 pm
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